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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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we're back with gene and chris on the

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power cast this week as you know chris

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taken a couple of weeks off and he's

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back raring to go a little bit later we

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expect to hear from burnt state

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but this is one of those shop talk

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episodes that we do every year or so the

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last one was in march of 2014

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so we felt this was the time this was

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the place now

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in

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last week's episode of after the power

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cast

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which you can't get unless you join

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power cast plus in last week's episode

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chris was on and he mentioned

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plans to have a memorial fund to raise

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funds for this webcam project

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in honor of his late brother brendan

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o'brien

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chris can you give me some ideas as to

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what you're hoping for here well it's it

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costs money to

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generate some cash to pay for this so

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of of having a memorial fund

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set up with a kickstarter campaign or a

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type of effort to

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generate the amount of cash it's going

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to take to at least get this thing up

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and running for a couple of years

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to demonstrate its viability i think

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once we get it up and functioning and we

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i think the groundswell support will

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you know i think we'll have more

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interest in funding than uh

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then we know what to do with but

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obviously we have to demonstrate the

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viability of the project we have to

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gain some irrefutable

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unequivocal data

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that can be analyzed by science and

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and it won't be able to be shot down if

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it's a kind of data that i think is is

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ready to be gathered

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in the san luis valley one of our

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wonderful hot spot areas here in north

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america will will

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will demonstrate the viability of the

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project and and it's it's quite simple

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to show that you have something worth

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funding it's it's a

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catch-22 so i think with a memorial

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fund my brother was very instrumental in

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my process for many years in the san

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luis valley and throughout my life and

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you know i feel like an eight-armed

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octopus that uh is all of a sudden

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missing a limb uh without him he's

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person in my life uh my only family it's

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been it's been really tough dealing with

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so quickly you don't normally you know

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uh to his memory and

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to all the wonderful uh the time and

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effort and energy he put in uh to help

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you know we can do is memorialize his uh

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efforts and his life uh in this way so

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uh there you go and that's uh that's

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gene well here's the thing that i think

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our listeners should understand chris

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and i have been talking for a long time

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about the fact that very little real

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is being done in the ufo field precious

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little they collect sightings they hold

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they get involved in reality tv shows

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where no investigation

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it doesn't exist

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and now chris has got this

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project in honor of his late brother

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he's trying to raise funds to do real

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research record the presence of weird

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phenomena

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give you some tools to investigate this

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thing i don't think this has ever been

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done anywhere in the world i haven't

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heard it it's not a webcam gene it's a

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triangulated array of cameras it's

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an all-sky cam in the middle at

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array of cameras uh the all-sky cam

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an event occurs that triggers the

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necessary to record on motion to detect

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you know motion first of all and then

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record our motion then all three cameras

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are given that quadrant data and they

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all swing around and they all

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triangulate in on

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the event this has never been done and

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separate triangulated camera views plus

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this is science this is this is where we

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have to go in this realm

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no one is ever going to take this

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subject seriously unless we can

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demonstrate with the scientific method

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beyond repute

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demonstrate that these these events are

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real these objects are real they they

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take up time and space uh in our reality

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and uh and can be measured and it's

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anything less than that you know jacques

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valet saying oh we need this we need

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this uh

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international database that we could we

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can correlate sightings and

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that's all

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bunk

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anecdotal data is not going to tell you

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anything

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sorry

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but that is not where this field should

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go this field should go

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for hard data monitoring real time you

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know

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irrefutable hard data monitoring

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take it away gene

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no i agree i use the word webcam only to

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simplify it obviously it's a lot more of

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sophisticated system the key is

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here is that you're doing something and

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trying to do something that isn't being

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done and i agree a hundred percent with

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you that just collecting more sightings

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is not going to solve anything because

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how many sightings do you need to prove

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you have tens and tens of thousands plus

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you have all these crazy red herrings

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like the roswell slides about which i'll

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speak later that just

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start people going off in tangents

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you know just like people chasing men in

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black back in the 50s and 60s and 70s

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are men in black going to solve this

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problem even if they're not intelligence

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people if they're private people if they

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are even

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paranormal creatures

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you're not going to capture them you're

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not going to be able to tase them or

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get them or have them arrested it's not

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so even if men in black are real it

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doesn't solve the ufo mystery it doesn't

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tell you what bigfoot is

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and that's the problem with the ufo

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field all of these red herrings

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keep coming up over and over again now

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as far as doing kickstarter or

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gofundme

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some of you out there are skilled at

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to tell the story

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for chris to explain exactly what he has

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and we hope that maybe someone out there

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who has done fundraising can get in

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touch with us

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over at the power cast

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and give us some ideas help us drop the

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the key here is he's going to be as

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careful as possible chris

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in defining

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all the things that he needs and i've

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huge amounts of money raise on gofundme

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silly purposes i mentioned something

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after the power cast and i won't mention

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one particular case there but i mean

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silly things whereas people who are sick

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and need money for medical care not

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always getting the money if it's

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something that gets attention in the

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you know even if it's not serious

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attention sometimes that brings in money

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but this is something with a serious

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scientific purpose it can overhaul ufo

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research

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once and for all

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after all these years get something

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solid done

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so if you have some any ideas

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contact us

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every page at the powercast.com or

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forum.theparacast.com has a contact us

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link

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message

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tell us how you can help in

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drawing up the presentation for the

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campaign

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and this way we can get it done

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as i said you know you don't get

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multiple times to try this out it has to

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work the first time and after all these

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years

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we need to get somewhere off

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where we are now because the field is in

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a rut we'll talk more about that in our

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next segment we'll also tell you how to

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get after the power cast if you haven't

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done so already it's a shop talk episode

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with jean and chris burnt state will be

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pharmacist ben fuchs believes virtually

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all disease states can be backtracked to

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digestive problems deficiencies in

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stomach acid can affect all downstream

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systems taking digestive enzymes can be

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amazingly helpful for dealing with

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deficiencies in stomach acid enzymes

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require low ph for activation you can

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also use aloe vera juice by the way

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sugars in aloe vera have a coating

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effect on the digestive system

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youngevity has a cool product called

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noni plus which is made from aloe and

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the noni fruit it's tasty it can also

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function to support digestive

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acidification acidification of the

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stomach and activation of digestive

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enzymes take pharmacist ben's advice and

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support your digestive system by

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this is our shop talk episode we do this

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done it since march of 2014 with gina

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very knowledgeable gentleman

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who comes from way up north in canada is

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going to journey into the show and give

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us his points of view but right now we

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were talking about this process here

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where chris is trying to raise funds for

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this network of cameras and i won't use

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the term webcam anymore or i will maybe

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the next time and he'll correct me

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which can possibly be

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finding solid evidence of the reality of

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ufos and other things

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checking

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now i mentioned after the power cast

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blastoffthepowercast.com let's continue

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our discussions of course we were

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talking about the problems in the ufo

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field about the fact that real

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investigation it doesn't really happen

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it's just collecting a lot of stories a

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lot of anecdotal data and whether you

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have

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one siding 100 or 10 million do you get

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any more evidence i don't know

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now

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we've talked about in the past the

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roswell slides

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that's of course the

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discovery of these two slides kodachrome

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slides that depicts something that may

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or may not be

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the corpse of an alien being we can't

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tell

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now there's going to be an event in

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mexico city

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happening in may i think it's may 5th

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right chris

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i believe so

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actually it's the same day i'm going to

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be speaking at adam state university up

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in colorado and i'll tell you which one

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i suggest you go to and it's not mexico

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city on the other hand

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a fellow named miguel who we all know as

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red pill junkie

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who's a terrifically knowledgeable

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blogger on all things paranormal he will

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be there

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and he assures me he'll report back as

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to what happened so we'll have red pill

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junkie

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joining us to i

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couldn't think of a better person to be

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attending that particular soiree well

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he's the kind of guy who will figure out

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what's really going on and get a real

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assessment about what this stuff is and

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i still think it's nonsense i still

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think it's a lot of nonsense i still

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think that it's being oversold and

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that's the biggest problem i have with

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it and chris you could agree or disagree

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i think if there's something real there

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why do we have to go through all this

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nonsense to oversell

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this possible piece of evidence of

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something or other

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let

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the story be told on the basis of the

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analysis of the slides and what the

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slides show

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don't prejudge it don't hype it because

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when you do

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it's like microsoft used to do with

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their vaporware where they'd advertise a

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new product and it never shows up

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that kind of thing

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what's your point chris

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i have no point

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to me it's

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it's just a

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bunch of hype and

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you know there's there's

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so many people are

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are excited about this and and i

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i just can't for life and we figure out

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why i don't think that there's a

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snowball chance in hell that this is

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going to be

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anything significant i don't think that

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there's a snowball chance in hell that

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can be

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in any way shape or form tied to the

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roswell event

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i think it's just a lot of wishful

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thinking

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i think it's people greedy that see you

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know a chance to make a fast buck

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i couldn't believe it i i remember he he

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after the phoenix lights incident uh

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hit the airwaves

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and got some notoriety he uh he rented

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some big auditorium and charged 100

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bucks ahead for a

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a conference uh and and featured vance

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davis of the

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the gulf breeze uh six if

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uh some of our listeners remember the

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uh gulf b6 uh some

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ouija board wielding uh

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ex-military members uh claiming the

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world's gonna end blah blah blah and he

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he touted vance davis one of these

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uh erswell

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military members as his masonic scholar

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was up there on the dais with him uh

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explaining all things uh

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you know had to do with uh the symbolism

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of the

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phoenix lights event and uh

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and to me it it this whole

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roswell slide thing falls into the same

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kind of category and and

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you know don schmidt uh tom carrey

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uh jaime massan

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you know good luck guys

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uh

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you know you're never going to be able

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to if this thing falls flat on its face

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all your efforts all your years of work

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are going to be flushed down the toilet

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uh and and and

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shame on you

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after all think of the stakes here if

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they're staking their reputations on

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this

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and it turns out to be a red herring

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what then now let me give you another

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piece of information

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that came out this week now we know

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kevin randall who's been an occasional

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guest on the show has a blog called a

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different perspective

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at

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google's blog spot where you can put up

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a blog now he has run several articles

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about roswell slides

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and now he has one called roswell slides

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and stan friedman which went up on the

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8th of april

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i'm going to read a little bit from it

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because i think it's very important it's

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very apt

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and i know that chris and i have ragged

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on stanton friedman for being too

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accepting

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of the

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mj 12 documents

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and he won't change his point of view

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so he was asked about

568
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,559
roswell slides let me read you the

569
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,240
introduction now i'll read you stanton

570
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:21,280
freeman's statement in our next segment

571
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:22,559
so

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00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,120
kevin says while many seem to be tired

573
00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:28,159
of the roswell slides nonsense

574
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:29,840
there has been one additional

575
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announcement

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00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,679
stan friedman who now labels himself as

577
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the first civilian investigator of

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roswell

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00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:39,919
was invited to participate in the mexico

580
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city extravaganza by jaime busan

581
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and then don schmidt

582
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friedman who has remained somewhat

583
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silent

584
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,880
as the controversy swirled

585
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finally chimed in

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in a well-publicized statement

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00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,720
he wrote

588
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,480
what did he write i'll tell you a next

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segment okay

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but just to let you know you're

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listening to gina and chris talking shop

592
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and i think it's time to

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lay our cards on the table about a lot

594
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of these

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very silly things are going on the ufo

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field

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being active with this hangar one tv

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show which is ridiculous it's no more

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accurate than the house hunter show

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where you have people looking at new

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homes and 30 minutes they find the one

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they want to buy

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so maybe we should have hanger one merge

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with house hunters and they'll be hangar

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ones house hunters

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to the paracast

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which would you like hanger ones house

711
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,159
hunters or house hunters

712
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in hangar one

713
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,120
they're hunters

714
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,960
or the huntress

715
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,880
you know make it female

716
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,960
gene steinberg chris o'brien talking

717
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shop burnt state due later

718
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as i mentioned during our past segment

719
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,679
kevin randle's different perspective ran

720
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,520
this article with

721
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:45,840
stanton friedman's comments about

722
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,799
roswell's slides is what stan wrote

723
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,960
my first thought was since i would be

724
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,440
asked my views as the first civilian

725
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,159
investigator of the roswell crashed

726
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,320
saucer event he has to give himself a

727
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,480
credit folks you see he goes on

728
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,799
it would be nice to have firsthand

729
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,159
information

730
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,039
so i read as much as i could positive

731
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:09,679
and negative i have not held copies of

732
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,640
the slides i can find no convincing

733
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,360
information that there is any connection

734
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,840
between the slides in roswell how would

735
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:20,000
an outsider gain access to the real

736
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,039
bodies

737
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,320
i have seen no specific data to convince

738
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,399
me these are phony

739
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,559
but that doesn't establish a connection

740
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,640
to the roswell events

741
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:32,720
but i don't want to appear to add

742
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,080
legitimacy to my presence in mexico city

743
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:38,320
in the absence of serious evidence of

744
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:41,440
the slides being what is being claimed

745
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:42,640
they are

746
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,200
absence of evidence is not

747
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,679
evidence of absence

748
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,080
so what can i tell you he's not going to

749
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:52,240
hang his hat on something that uh you

750
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,120
know

751
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:55,039
the evidence chain providence and all

752
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:57,200
that uh just it just

753
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,960
there's gaping holes in the whole thing

754
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,200
and and uh the fact that the things

755
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,520
underneath a glass

756
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:05,600
you know in a glass display case sitting

757
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,840
on a blanket with a hand you know

758
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:09,600
a little card

759
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,880
it just doesn't add up they would not

760
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,120
treat something so

761
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:17,919
historically significant and potentially

762
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,840
biologically dangerous in such a

763
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:22,159
cavalier manner number one and and

764
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,000
anybody that thinks that there's

765
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:26,559
the slightest possibility that this is

766
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:29,760
real should go to rick dyer's school of

767
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,510
it to me it's ludicrous and

768
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,200
it just

769
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,919
it really makes me

770
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,640
scratch my head and wonder why i am i'm

771
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,399
allowing myself to be publicly

772
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,000
associated

773
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,120
with such a circus uh

774
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,559
with the label

775
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:55,120
questionable label of ufology to to me

776
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,480
you know i i

777
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,559
people say oh you're a ufologist and i

778
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,640
correct them i say no i'm not

779
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,520
don't call me that that's an insult

780
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,590
i'm feeling rather jaded today gene uh

781
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,679
which is i guess maybe understandable

782
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:13,120
maybe not but

783
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,399
i i just i

784
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,159
this stuff makes me embarrassed to be

785
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,559
associated in a way shape or form with

786
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,399
field and

787
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:23,360
and uh we'll see what bernstein has to

788
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,799
say when he comes on here but uh i'm

789
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,480
i'm i'm becoming more and more

790
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,399
disillusioned

791
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:31,919
uh

792
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:34,720
as the years go by i'm becoming more

793
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:38,080
jaded cynical and uh

794
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,919
and just uh

795
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:41,279
i'm just

796
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:43,279
this it's wearing me out

797
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,240
uh

798
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:46,480
how much true believerism

799
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:48,840
is taking over this field and and people

800
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,080
wanting all these wonderful uh

801
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,399
sci-fi scenarios to be real

802
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,240
without any

803
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,640
any even even even pretending to have

804
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,960
any sort of semblance of discrimination

805
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:02,080
and

806
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,000
you know a sense of discernment uh

807
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,399
it's just it's ridiculous uh

808
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,080
what passes

809
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:12,880
as as reality and uh and true

810
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:15,360
believerism uh today it's it's going

811
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:16,880
downhill fast

812
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,279
there are no brakes on the uh on the

813
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:20,480
vehicle

814
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:22,399
and uh there's a brick wall at the end

815
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,840
of the uh the downward slippery slope so

816
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,240
pass it back over to you there gino

817
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,880
we obviously we're still in it

818
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,960
to win it to figure out what's really

819
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:34,720
going on

820
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,279
and try to come up with some answers

821
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,360
try to find better ways to do research

822
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,679
or ways to do research because that

823
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,120
isn't being done

824
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:45,360
as i wrote in that article for the power

825
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,480
cast newsletter no investigations can

826
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,559
actually proceed

827
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,080
which actually dates back to the days of

828
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:54,240
nycap but nycap didn't do any

829
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:55,679
investigation

830
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,279
how many books out there about ufos

831
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,440
actually are the results of research and

832
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,200
not just

833
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,480
copying

834
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:05,600
stories

835
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,200
on the show

836
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,440
like jc johnson

837
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:16,080
who tells really good campfire stories

838
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,159
it's not that he doesn't have a process

839
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,320
where he vets his stories it's not that

840
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,000
he isn't sincere it's not that the

841
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:24,320
stories aren't true

842
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,840
but that's not the same thing as doing

843
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:27,760
scientific investigation of strange

844
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,720
things

845
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,559
and you've got to think if ufos are

846
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:32,080
truly

847
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,039
representative of a civilization from

848
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,960
another planet

849
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:38,880
certainly we've got to

850
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:40,960
redouble our efforts to figure that out

851
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,519
if that's true if it's not true report

852
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,440
that fact if it's something else report

853
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,799
that fact

854
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:48,799
but right now we're in a situation where

855
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:51,760
the ufo field is filled with

856
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:55,039
backbiting flaming

857
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,919
red herrings vaporware promises that

858
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,840
aren't delivered

859
00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:01,919
requests for disclosure

860
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:04,240
now request for disclosure

861
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:04,960
to

862
00:33:09,269 --> 00:33:08,000
my point of view is a cop-out

863
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,279
because you're saying well maybe the

864
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,960
government knows the truth

865
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:12,240
if they tell us the truth we don't have

866
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:13,360
to do anything

867
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,919
we just have to ask them nicely or get

868
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,080
the right petition or stage enough

869
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,840
public events and eventually the

870
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:22,080
government will say okay sure

871
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,320
they are aliens and this is the truth

872
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,159
and here's the reason

873
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,919
ain't going to happen

874
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,000
i think we have the evidence of what 60

875
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,919
years to prove

876
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,840
that disclosure can't work

877
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:35,600
now maybe the

878
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,519
press of outside events may force

879
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,760
something to happen like that maybe it

880
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,440
is that the government is engaged in a

881
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,919
gradual disclosure where they slowly

882
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,519
dole out information about the

883
00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:46,960
possibility

884
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:49,519
of life in outer space

885
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,480
hoping to get us to eventually agree

886
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,279
that that life is here

887
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,200
and they're visiting us

888
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,679
that they have water on mercury and on

889
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,360
the moons of

890
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,120
jupiter and saturn

891
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:05,279
i don't know

892
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,519
do you think that disclosure if it

893
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,240
happened chris would be so gradual we

894
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,159
wouldn't know

895
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,240
well it makes more sense than some big

896
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:16,399
you know announcement by the government

897
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,560
i i don't think again i've said this

898
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:20,320
many many times on the paracast i don't

899
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,599
think the government

900
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,359
is in full

901
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:25,520
control of the width and breadth of

902
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:29,200
information about ufos

903
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:30,560
or

904
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:33,679
think it's just

905
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,919
you know it doesn't put votes in the

906
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,639
voting box it doesn't uh generate

907
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:40,639
campaign funding

908
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,760
um so

909
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:43,200
these are issues that are that are

910
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,639
really

911
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,960
you know not important

912
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,679
to your average uh

913
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,520
american politician

914
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:53,440
and that being the case i think i think

915
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,000
the government has

916
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,800
allowed a lot of this information to be

917
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,520
appropriated by the private sector

918
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,880
i think uh

919
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,640
if you could gather all this information

920
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,040
together from various sources and put it

921
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,760
under one big hanger one

922
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,040
uh

923
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,359
you may have something to disclose but i

924
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,960
i don't i don't think

925
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,960
in its piecemeal state that it's there's

926
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,520
anything that can be disclosed really

927
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:21,119
i think the government knows a lot more

928
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,400
than we do on certain levels that's why

929
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:27,280
they're a lot more confused than we are

930
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,560
i think the more you know about this

931
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:30,480
subject the more you realize you don't

932
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,599
know and that just creates confusion and

933
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,079
it it creates uh

934
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,000
you know it kind of forces that ostrich

935
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:40,560
that proverbial ostrich to thrust its

936
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:42,880
head even further in the sand and keep

937
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:44,960
that nice little feathered tushy you

938
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,839
know wiggling in the breeze uh

939
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,280
and and i think that

940
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,240
this analogy is appropriate for uh

941
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:55,359
anyone that wants to discuss uh the

942
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,880
whole topic of

943
00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:59,200
of the government

944
00:36:03,670 --> 00:36:02,079
coming clean about ufos or disclosing

945
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,680
what it knows the government doesn't

946
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:05,440
know jack

947
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,320
and so maybe we should go ask jack

948
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:10,000
well there's a guy named jack in private

949
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,440
industry that of course raises the

950
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,720
bigger question

951
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,880
if there was a secret

952
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,119
that the government possessed would they

953
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:19,680
keep the secret would they have to

954
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:23,599
find ways to have that secret pass on

955
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:25,760
from generation to generation bureaucrat

956
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,920
to bureaucrat or send it all out to

957
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,000
private industry because they're just

958
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,320
not accountable besides they are funding

959
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,240
your election campaign your re-election

960
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,520
campaign

961
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,000
we've got more to come with our shop

962
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talk episode burnt state joins us later

963
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on with gina and chris you're in the

964
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paracast

965
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969
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space

970
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but the dreams turn out to be true and

971
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thrust him into a telepathic love affair

972
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with a woman whose far away planet is

973
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intent on destroying the earth

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981
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1013
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1015
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1016
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1017
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1018
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1019
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1020
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1021
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1022
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1023
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sleeping a lot better my blood pressure

1024
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1025
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my sleep really did improve experience

1026
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1027
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1033
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1034
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1037
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1039
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1040
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,640
leaders of organizations who've been

1041
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waiting for the right time to build

1042
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general steel has made it impossible to

1043
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,359
wait any longer with rock bottom prices

1044
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that could save you thousands that's

1045
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right general steel america's leader in

1046
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1047
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buildings at prices you will never see

1048
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again don't miss these prices a 50 by

1049
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1050
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1051
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if you need a larger building try a 100

1052
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by 100 commercial building for 129 000.

1053
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you can't afford to rent with these

1054
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prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot church

1055
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building for under 69 000

1056
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with the economy improving and interest

1057
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:46,320
rates still at historic lows you can't

1058
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1059
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1060
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[Music]

1061
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,960
author of 866-917-8335 ufo encyclopedia

1062
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:09,040
in other books you're listening to the

1063
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:10,770
peercast

1064
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,400
[Music]

1065
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:17,839
i'm jaded

1066
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,839
he's

1067
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,440
frustrated gene steinberg chris o'brien

1068
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,359
shop talk episode

1069
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,079
and i'm not giving up by the way chris

1070
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,240
is not giving up on research

1071
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:30,480
it's just as if we don't point out the

1072
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,680
problems

1073
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,440
with the field now

1074
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,599
and we keep that discussion going

1075
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:38,000
things will never ever get fixed things

1076
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,680
are never going to be fixed

1077
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,079
it's just going to be on and on

1078
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,680
we'll have the silly flame wars we'll

1079
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,960
have all the arguments we'll have

1080
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,079
debates

1081
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,400
over ufo abductions

1082
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:50,240
now that's another thing too

1083
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:51,920
ufo abductions

1084
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:53,359
we've talked about that from time to

1085
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,160
time

1086
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,480
then chris and i do not believe that

1087
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,400
hypnotic regression brings out the

1088
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,440
evidence

1089
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:01,280
although certainly there are

1090
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,920
various purposes for that and it has its

1091
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,240
value in doing

1092
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,160
examinations by psychologists

1093
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,680
psychiatrists

1094
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,160
hypnotherapists etc but to tell us the

1095
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,359
truth about ufo abductions no

1096
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,359
if someone believes they've had a

1097
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,599
abduction that they were abducted

1098
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,880
how does that tell you what the real

1099
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:22,560
event is

1100
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:24,000
how does that tell us what the real

1101
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,680
event is if they remember consciously or

1102
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:29,920
otherwise being transported through a

1103
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,119
window levitated into a spaceship or

1104
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,440
waking up in a spaceship or being taken

1105
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,359
aboard one how does that prove what

1106
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,960
really happened

1107
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:39,920
chris

1108
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,839
well it doesn't i mean that's the short

1109
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,720
answer um i you know again this is this

1110
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,720
is an area that i've just

1111
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,240
because of my own personal experience

1112
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,839
i've just stayed away from it i i don't

1113
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:51,839
know what to make of it i i know there's

1114
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:53,680
something

1115
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,040
behind uh at least a percentage of these

1116
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,280
claims i think that there is a real

1117
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,680
phenomenon

1118
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,599
at the heart of this

1119
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,400
i think a lot of personal interpretation

1120
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,160
a lot of

1121
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,400
sort of front loaded programming that

1122
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,440
the culture uh provides individuals uh

1123
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,040
who

1124
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,440
maybe fall within the uh the rubric of

1125
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,920
the abduction phenomenon i i think that

1126
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:21,599
there's a lot of

1127
00:43:26,970 --> 00:43:26,470
sort of unintentional

1128
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,980
um

1129
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:28,720
[Music]

1130
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,319
the details that that are being created

1131
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,560
by the individual

1132
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,079
possibly to help them deal with the

1133
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,680
experience

1134
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,760
uh possibly to to

1135
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,680
to help them um

1136
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,440
interpret

1137
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,560
um

1138
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,200
why they've been selected uh

1139
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:49,280
there's just so much of it that that is

1140
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:51,040
intensely personal

1141
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:53,760
that that varies uh from case the case

1142
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,560
that

1143
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,280
it's too inconsistent

1144
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,839
in many ways and in other ways it's too

1145
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,720
consistent to be real uh in my mind uh

1146
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,599
to be

1147
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,079
taken at that face value

1148
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,880
this is something just infinitely

1149
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,119
complex that

1150
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:12,880
i don't think enough work has been done

1151
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,359
on and looking at the

1152
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:17,440
um

1153
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,000
at the effect of these experiences on

1154
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,400
the individual um as well as the effect

1155
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,880
of these experiences on the cultures

1156
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:27,040
you know as a whole

1157
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,880
i think too much it's a force for the

1158
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,480
trees type scenario i think a lot of the

1159
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,920
details are being supplied by the

1160
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:33,359
experiencer

1161
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,079
and uh do not accurately reflect the

1162
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:37,839
true nature of the experience that's

1163
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,560
kind of my bottom line

1164
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:42,319
again i don't think these people are

1165
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,839
making uh

1166
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,839
or some of these people are making this

1167
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,800
up i think

1168
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,040
there are some people that just

1169
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,119
are totally delusional uh

1170
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,280
there's no doubt in my mind

1171
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:55,680
but for the people that are experiencing

1172
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,760
these things i i know there's something

1173
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,119
going on because i personally have

1174
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:01,119
experienced something along these lines

1175
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,800
so there is something to this but it is

1176
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,440
nowhere near

1177
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,640
what people uh think it is and uh much

1178
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,319
more work has to be done

1179
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,480
uh to to really ascertain the width and

1180
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,480
breadth and in depth of this this whole

1181
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,800
phenomenon the thing that bothers me is

1182
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,040
when you try to extrapolate

1183
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:23,440
these events first assume okay it's e.t

1184
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,800
visiting us

1185
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,040
and wait a minute these people are

1186
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,960
in some cases remember

1187
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:30,960
tests being taken of the reproductive

1188
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,760
systems maybe there's a dream of having

1189
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,079
some kind of relationship with an alien

1190
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:38,400
and they talk about a hybrid race and

1191
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:39,920
then we have some researchers

1192
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,640
extrapolating this and saying the aliens

1193
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:44,800
are here to create a hybrid race

1194
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,960
millions of people have been abducted

1195
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:48,400
and i have to think

1196
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:51,520
even if our dna is compatible with alien

1197
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,560
dna

1198
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,560
where they can do some kind of genetic

1199
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,200
engineering to create this hybrid race

1200
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:59,040
why would they need to

1201
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:00,720
kidnap

1202
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,319
few people to accomplish this

1203
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,160
and you know what's up with the scoop

1204
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:10,720
marks and the the implants i mean

1205
00:46:14,810 --> 00:46:12,800
you would think that uh nanotechnology

1206
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,820
would be you know

1207
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,240
[Music]

1208
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,200
a state in level of technology that

1209
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,280
an advanced race would have access to

1210
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:23,680
and you would think that uh

1211
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:26,800
you know just a a swab with a

1212
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,400
with a cotton swab on a stick would be

1213
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:32,720
suffice for gathering genetic material

1214
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:33,839
just you know

1215
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,240
getting a little bit of saliva you know

1216
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,960
why take you know scoop marks out of

1217
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:41,119
legs or arms or

1218
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:44,800
uh you know forcibly uh place large

1219
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,680
invasive objects up nasal cavities or

1220
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:50,000
behind ears or

1221
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,560
it did to me it's

1222
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,560
it just doesn't make sense i mean the

1223
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:56,720
level of medical procedures the level of

1224
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,480
technology some of these medical

1225
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:00,000
procedures

1226
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,079
uh allegedly are exhibiting are

1227
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,200
medieval sound it just

1228
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,440
to me it's all there's so much of this

1229
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,240
that smacks of theater and

1230
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,640
it's smacks of of

1231
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,400
of just uh

1232
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:18,000
subterfuge uh

1233
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,800
there's

1234
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:21,119
a surreality to all this that doesn't

1235
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,400
add up

1236
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:23,680
uh

1237
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,960
an advanced race would not be employing

1238
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:28,400
uh i think

1239
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,319
degraded levels of technology uh

1240
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,680
it just it doesn't make sense gene it

1241
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,480
just totally does not make sense anybody

1242
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,240
that thinks it makes sense

1243
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,000
needs to have their head examined

1244
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,240
well let's not go that far because we

1245
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,240
have some dedicated people who are

1246
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,000
researching these things and come to

1247
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:50,000
conclusions like this

1248
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,040
but again

1249
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,960
we're not denigrating the people who

1250
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,160
have

1251
00:47:58,470 --> 00:47:56,720
sometimes very frightening experiences

1252
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,480
really screws them up

1253
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,480
something is happening

1254
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:02,400
it's like but if if people think that

1255
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:03,119
that

1256
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:05,280
the level of technology being employed

1257
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:12,870
it can be explained away

1258
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:15,680
it it doesn't make sense

1259
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,470
if if our level of technology was

1260
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,960
employed by these aliens they would not

1261
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:27,200
need to do such invasive

1262
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,160
uh

1263
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,079
you know frightening things to people i

1264
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,000
i think that the the whole idea of the

1265
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,319
theatricality about this is is something

1266
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:37,040
that has not been explored enough

1267
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,480
and uh and and if somebody thinks that

1268
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,040
if somebody can try to explain to me the

1269
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:45,920
rationale for employing medieval

1270
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,520
levels of technology it's just

1271
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:50,720
go ahead

1272
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,240
explain explain to me why

1273
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,240
these particular procedures are done

1274
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,839
with the particular

1275
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,400
instruments in a particular way

1276
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,800
go ahead explain to me

1277
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,119
why this is so and why they can't be

1278
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:07,359
less invasive why they can't be

1279
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,319
uh

1280
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:10,240
kinder and gentler

1281
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,520
why

1282
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,119
create such a

1283
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,559
you know a sense of fear and violation

1284
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:17,920
and uh

1285
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,720
and invasion

1286
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,920
whatever

1287
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,880
is

1288
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:25,119
being done and for whatever rationale

1289
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,240
could be done

1290
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,069
violently a lot less invasively and and

1291
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,160
it could be done in a way that would be

1292
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,960
less traumatic and less impactful on the

1293
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,800
participant the fact that

1294
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,160
those

1295
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,160
kinder and gentler

1296
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,480
scenarios are not being employed

1297
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:46,880
indicates to me that there is a message

1298
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,920
being sent and that message um has to do

1299
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,200
with

1300
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:55,670
an area of this whole phenomenon that

1301
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:58,720
has not been adequately addressed

1302
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,119
let's put it that way

1303
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:02,960
i think also the wrong questions are

1304
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:05,680
sometimes being asked which is

1305
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,319
not what are the aliens up to but what

1306
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:10,319
happened to these people

1307
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:12,559
who are they

1308
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,359
being contacted by

1309
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,680
can we assume at all that what they see

1310
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,520
is what they're getting this is another

1311
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,480
argument i make about ufos in general

1312
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:25,200
and about these personal encounters

1313
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,559
and that is are we seeing

1314
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:30,559
what's really there

1315
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,839
are we seeing

1316
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:33,839
something that we can't interpret

1317
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:36,400
visually so we make it up

1318
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,480
at what level are we being contacted

1319
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:40,240
physically

1320
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,520
mentally

1321
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,280
a lot of things is going on that we

1322
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,280
don't understand

1323
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:47,359
and i still think back to the movie

1324
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,640
contact

1325
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,880
where jody foster plays this radio

1326
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,079
astronomer

1327
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,319
who goes on what may or may not have

1328
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,800
been a trip to another star system but

1329
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,880
never physically leaving earth

1330
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,960
and she meets e.t

1331
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,280
and e.t is of course a creature from

1332
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,440
another star system he's not from mars

1333
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:06,640
or venus or

1334
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,520
anything like that and e.t comes to her

1335
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,440
in the form of her father

1336
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:13,680
saying that you would not accept my true

1337
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:16,079
appearance so i'm coming this way to you

1338
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,839
to communicate with you

1339
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,520
is that what e.t is doing or whatever

1340
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,480
force is behind ufos yeah good question

1341
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,240
and we'll have more to talk about in our

1342
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,359
next segment

1343
00:51:32,340 --> 00:51:27,599
shop talk with gene and chris you're in

1344
00:51:32,350 --> 00:51:37,910
[Music]

1345
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,109
a little right a little left but always

1346
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:43,839
independent minded the genesis

1347
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:48,079
communications network g c n

1348
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,839
first game attack of the rockoids and it

1349
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,839
was a critically acclaimed success and

1350
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,200
now there is the coming of the

1351
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,119
protectors a former military

1352
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,359
intelligence man is contacted by a space

1353
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:59,520
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

1354
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:02,079
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

1355
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,680
her distant planet are planning to

1356
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:05,920
conquer the earth this is gripping

1357
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,480
science fiction of the classic kind

1358
00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:10,319
attack of the rockoids and the coming of

1359
00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:12,359
the protectors find out more at

1360
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,240
rockoaids.com that's rockoids

1361
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:18,319
r-o-c-k-o-i-d-s dot com hi this is ted

1362
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,760
anderson have you ever wondered why

1363
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:21,760
banks stock brokers investment advisors

1364
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,680
won't talk about gold iras they've been

1365
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,079
available since 1986 yet the financial

1366
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:27,839
industry won't recognize the value of

1367
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,520
gold for your retirement gold has

1368
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,440
outperformed paper investments yet no

1369
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,280
word about iras if you would like to

1370
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,359
have gold for your retirement call

1371
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:38,640
800-686-2237 don't get left behind by

1372
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,880
rising inflation and low returns call

1373
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:44,480
800-686-2237 secure your future and call

1374
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,030
this alert just came in this special

1375
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,119
announcement is for business owners and

1376
00:52:59,910 --> 00:52:57,200
leaders of organizations who've been

1377
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,920
waiting for the right time to build

1378
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,920
general steel has made it impossible to

1379
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:04,000
wait any longer with rock bottom prices

1380
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,160
that could save you thousands that's

1381
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,400
right general steele america's leader in

1382
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,480
pre-engineered structures is offering

1383
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,400
buildings at prices you will never see

1384
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:14,880
again don't miss these prices a 50 by

1385
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,319
100 for 35 000 you heard right that's 5

1386
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,200
000 square feet for 35 000 manufacturers

1387
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:23,280
if you need a larger building try a 100

1388
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:26,400
by 100 commercial building for 129 000.

1389
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:27,920
you can't afford to rent with these

1390
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,400
prices imagine a 70 by 100 foot church

1391
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,559
building for under 69 000

1392
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,640
with the economy improving and interest

1393
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:36,880
rates still at historic lows you can't

1394
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:41,119
afford to wait so call 866 91 steel lock

1395
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:45,040
in your price now call 866 91 steel

1396
00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:56,630
[Music]

1397
00:54:03,510 --> 00:53:59,910
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1398
00:54:04,790 --> 00:54:03,520
standard of paranormal radio

1399
00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:04,800
and now

1400
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:08,150
here's gene steinberg

1401
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:13,829
with gene and chris you've got shop talk

1402
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,240
2015

1403
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:19,200
13 months after shop talk 2014. we've

1404
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,800
been talking about

1405
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,800
what we see and whether what we see is

1406
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,720
what we get when we see ufos and they

1407
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:26,000
appear to be

1408
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,000
metallic craft

1409
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:30,960
engaged in pinpoint maneuvers

1410
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:33,839
incredible speeds all that sort of stuff

1411
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:36,880
is that what's really in front of us

1412
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:39,680
or not when people

1413
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:42,559
claim to be abducted by aliens

1414
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,800
is that what they've contacted

1415
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,720
or are they interpreting it in a way

1416
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,520
that

1417
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:49,920
matches our culture in the middle ages

1418
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,200
would have been leprechauns or witches

1419
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,440
and a thousand years from now if these

1420
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,119
things are still happening

1421
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,280
how would we interpret them

1422
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,920
not just now based on our spaceship

1423
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:03,200
culture

1424
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,240
but

1425
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,559
500 or a thousand years from now will

1426
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,559
these things if they still happen

1427
00:55:12,829 --> 00:55:10,400
happen in the same way

1428
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:12,839
what about the ufo researcher of

1429
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,559
3115 or something 1100 years from now

1430
00:55:22,790 --> 00:55:18,880
well you know i think that's that's a

1431
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:22,800
really good question i i i think the um

1432
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,319
the details of these experiences are

1433
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,400
colored by the times

1434
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:31,040
they're colored by the the pre

1435
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,800
uh conceptions of the individual uh

1436
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:37,040
how they've been

1437
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:38,640
educated

1438
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,559
to accept the reality or non-reality

1439
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:44,319
of a given experience and i think all

1440
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:46,800
this is hinged by the times and and i

1441
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,359
think these these types of experiences

1442
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,440
jacques villa uh i think very insightful

1443
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:54,240
he pointed out in 1969 in his book uh

1444
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,280
passport to begonia that these these

1445
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:58,799
types of experiences have always

1446
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,359
occurred but they are

1447
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:03,760
they are colored by the

1448
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,799
the perceptions of the experiencers

1449
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,880
which are colored by the by the times

1450
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:09,760
that they

1451
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,640
are living and

1452
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,319
you know what were once considered you

1453
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,240
know fairies and gnomes and elves and

1454
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,480
trolls uh

1455
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,280
now

1456
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,040
have more of a high-tech sort of veneer

1457
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,280
to them and i think uh in

1458
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,839
a thousand years uh that that might even

1459
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:27,440
be

1460
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:31,200
more um

1461
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:32,559
exalted

1462
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:33,760
more

1463
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,520
and

1464
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,680
possibly encompass

1465
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,440
areas of the human experience that we

1466
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,240
have yet to even uh experience and and

1467
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,839
understand um

1468
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,000
we're constantly evolving

1469
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,160
as a species we're

1470
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:52,480
we're constantly learning new

1471
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,400
information this is filtering into the

1472
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,559
culture and the culture is

1473
00:57:02,630 --> 00:56:59,359
is you know being pulled forward

1474
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,640
uh in fits and starts uh

1475
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:04,960
you know every year and every decade in

1476
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,960
every generation so

1477
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,799
um i think this is something that will

1478
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:11,040
be constantly evolving there would

1479
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:14,880
never be any sort of end end point uh

1480
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:18,240
it's it's just it it's not part of how

1481
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:22,160
this whole reality is is fashioned uh

1482
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,760
that's what's wonderful about our

1483
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,400
reality it keeps progressing old farts

1484
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,920
like you and me gene

1485
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,359
you know we're being left behind by

1486
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:31,280
five-year-olds uh by ten-year-olds who

1487
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,589
handier grasp of technology

1488
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:39,119
than we could ever possibly hope to

1489
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:42,559
imagine uh some of these kids today

1490
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:45,599
falling in love with their thumbs

1491
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,359
eyes forever glancing downward

1492
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:50,960
they're going to be running circles

1493
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:53,040
around

1494
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:56,559
uh our children uh these these grandkids

1495
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:59,119
uh you know these these young youngsters

1496
00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:00,480
are gonna be

1497
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,160
dazzling in their

1498
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,559
their technological prowess

1499
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,160
unless

1500
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,640
somebody decides to pop off a few uh you

1501
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,400
know well-placed uh

1502
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:11,920
emp uh

1503
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,000
explosions in the atmosphere and render

1504
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,799
all this wonderful technology and

1505
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:17,920
fry every

1506
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,000
electronic circuit and send us all back

1507
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:23,200
to the stone age that'll be interesting

1508
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,720
if something like that happens and all

1509
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:26,880
these kids who are so reliant on high

1510
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,880
technology if if all of a sudden the rug

1511
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:30,640
was pulled out

1512
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:34,559
from from the western world let's say uh

1513
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:35,440
and

1514
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,200
we didn't have access to the to the

1515
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,880
internet we didn't have access to cell

1516
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,000
phones

1517
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:42,240
i think people

1518
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,280
uh the younger generations

1519
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,160
would have a very difficult time dealing

1520
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:50,640
with uh the complete

1521
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,280
uh lack of

1522
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,760
you know access to to these wonderful

1523
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:58,079
technological toys that uh everyone

1524
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:01,599
seems so enamored with i mean i remember

1525
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,440
when cell phones came out i couldn't

1526
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,680
have a cell phone even if i wanted one

1527
00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:07,599
because there was no cell coverage in in

1528
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:09,839
southern south central colorado until

1529
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:12,400
about 2002

1530
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,119
and uh then you know slowly people start

1531
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,960
getting cell phones and i say i'll never

1532
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,720
get one of those things man i don't want

1533
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,880
people to to be able to find me i i want

1534
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:22,160
to be able to

1535
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:23,920
you know

1536
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,640
beholden to a telephone to me it was

1537
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:30,480
horrifying

1538
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:33,359
and of course uh by 2004 i had a cell

1539
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,720
phone

1540
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,559
and then people started texting and i

1541
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,480
remember the first time i i saw texting

1542
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:40,480
was there was two kids at a

1543
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,400
a dinner table texting each other across

1544
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,640
the table i was shocked i couldn't

1545
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:47,200
believe

1546
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:51,839
said well i'll never do that i'll never

1547
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,480
text and of course uh

1548
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,000
now i'm a

1549
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,240
full-time texter

1550
01:00:01,109 --> 01:00:00,319
well i wouldn't say that but i do text

1551
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,119
um

1552
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,559
if i have to

1553
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,160
it's a great way to communicate actually

1554
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:06,000
uh you can really you can have the first

1555
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,440
and last word and not worry about it uh

1556
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:11,280
but uh you know the whole smartphone

1557
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:15,359
thing you know i i have a smartphone but

1558
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,319
you know

1559
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,400
i'm i'm a dummy when it comes to

1560
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:20,480
smartphones i

1561
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:23,520
i just don't have time to uh

1562
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:26,559
or the inclination or the patience to be

1563
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,160
constantly falling in love with my

1564
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,880
thumbs i it's just

1565
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,640
i think we're going to evolve here in a

1566
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:34,000
couple generations where we'll have

1567
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:36,400
these long slender thumbs with

1568
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:37,200
two

1569
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:38,480
uh

1570
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,400
thumb pads a very long slender thumbs

1571
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,160
that that are

1572
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,400
double jointed that uh

1573
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:48,799
when i've seen people i text i i just

1574
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:50,160
i'm

1575
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,720
they can type out entire you know

1576
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,119
chapters of books if they wanted to with

1577
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,359
their thumb so to me to me it's it's

1578
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:03,760
frightening actually

1579
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:06,000
i don't know about you dude but

1580
01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:08,640
man i just i don't know i guess i'm just

1581
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:11,280
getting old you really start to feel

1582
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,720
your age when you start having to

1583
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:14,720
comment on what the younger generation

1584
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:17,599
does or does not do

1585
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:19,200
you know i remember thinking to myself

1586
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,720
when my dad said

1587
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:22,480
when sergeant peppers came out he said

1588
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,839
that's not music i mean chopin is music

1589
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:27,359
you know beethoven his music and i

1590
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:28,799
looked at him and i thought

1591
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,000
man dude you are really i can't believe

1592
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:34,079
you just said that

1593
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:35,599
and of course you know what do i think

1594
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,480
about gangsta rap you know

1595
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:40,640
gangsta rap

1596
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:44,880
uh you know i it to me that's not music

1597
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:48,000
so i've turned into my old man you know

1598
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:48,799
oh

1599
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:49,920
it's it

1600
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:52,319
it really sucks being crusty old farts

1601
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,880
gene i i mean and i'm younger than you

1602
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,119
you know i think you're an old fart and

1603
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:59,359
it just it just horrifies me what people

1604
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:00,240
think

1605
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,559
about uh our generation and listening to

1606
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,480
shows like this thinking oh these old

1607
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,640
guys are constantly complaining they're

1608
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:08,720
bitching they're convexing about this

1609
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,920
and that

1610
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,440
how everything is

1611
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,760
is just going to hell in a hand basket

1612
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,200
and

1613
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:17,280
i'd like to see somebody else take this

1614
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:19,280
uh this whole shooting match forward and

1615
01:02:24,069 --> 01:02:21,200
and really make sense of all this i i'm

1616
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,079
doing the best i can in my way

1617
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:26,240
trying to to apply the the

1618
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:28,720
powers of diagnostic science uh to some

1619
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:30,799
of these questions and

1620
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:32,960
and i'm just you know

1621
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:35,119
just feels sometimes like i'm just

1622
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,880
banging my head against the brick wall

1623
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,880
um there's so many people out there just

1624
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,799
want to believe they don't care about

1625
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,280
data they don't care about facts

1626
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:45,280
they just care about what

1627
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:49,119
what sounds good to them or what what uh

1628
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:50,960
happens to um

1629
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,200
ring their bell or tweak their uh chain

1630
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:55,280
or whatever you want to call it uh

1631
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:56,960
and to me that's

1632
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:58,079
you know

1633
01:03:03,030 --> 01:02:59,760
you might as well just go back to sleep

1634
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:03,040
and and continue uh with your dream life

1635
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:05,280
uh because that's not that's not how we

1636
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,520
define reality that's not how we we move

1637
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,680
forward with our understanding that's

1638
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:10,720
not how

1639
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:12,160
real

1640
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,799
so i'm off my soapbox gene

1641
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:20,880
we've got more to come a reminder please

1642
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,160
go to

1643
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,960
plus.thepowercast.com where you can sign

1644
01:03:29,589 --> 01:03:27,200
up for the powercast plus

1645
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:29,599
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1646
01:03:33,150 --> 01:03:30,400
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1647
01:03:34,349 --> 01:03:33,160
to subscribers plus.powercast.com

1648
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,359
[Music]

1649
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:36,640
shoptalk2015 more to come with gene and

1650
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:39,410
chris you're in the paracast

1651
01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:49,589
there's a man named dr joel wallach who

1652
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:51,680
is anything but your typical doctor both

1653
01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:54,000
a veterinarian and naturopathic

1654
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,799
physician doc asks why does the united

1655
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,559
states spend more money on health care

1656
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,200
by far and still rank 50th in health and

1657
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:03,599
longevity worldwide he believes that

1658
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,359
people should empower themselves with a

1659
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:07,839
basic understanding of nutrition take

1660
01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:09,359
charge of their health and attain

1661
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,359
optimal health and longevity through

1662
01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:13,839
nutrition not by toxic prescription

1663
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:16,160
drugs that lead to side effects and more

1664
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,119
toxic prescription drugs doc wallach's

1665
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:21,280
message is resonating with an increasing

1666
01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,680
number of americans who are waking up to

1667
01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:25,599
all the big government big pharma and

1668
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:27,920
big insurance manipulation of our health

1669
01:04:32,309 --> 01:04:30,240
care system i'm george dorey and i like

1670
01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:32,319
what doc wallach is saying and doing to

1671
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,920
enlighten people about health care visit

1672
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,799
brightsidebend.com and listen to doc

1673
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,960
wallach's deadly recipes lecture it

1674
01:04:43,549 --> 01:04:40,799
makes a lot of sense and i urge you to

1675
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,559
join the bright side bend team go to

1676
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:44,960
brightsidebend.com that's

1677
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,839
brightsidebend.com

1678
01:04:51,029 --> 01:04:49,200
friends this is alex jones for

1679
01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:51,039
midasresources.com

1680
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,720
for more than 15 years i have

1681
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:54,960
exclusively used midas resources for all

1682
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well i don't know if we're just a bunch

1761
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:13,680
of old people

1762
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:16,560
complaining about the way things are

1763
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:17,279
but

1764
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,839
if you don't complain about it

1765
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:21,600
if you accept the situation it doesn't

1766
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:23,120
get changed

1767
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,880
the only way the situation gets changed

1768
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:27,040
is if you complain about it if you look

1769
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:28,880
for solutions

1770
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:31,279
and we are sure looking for

1771
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:32,719
solutions

1772
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,799
squeaky wheels

1773
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,960
tend to attract the grease

1774
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:38,960
they sure do

1775
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:42,480
gets very squeaky just thinking about it

1776
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,159
in fact my fingers are getting squeaky

1777
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:46,000
right now as i think about it

1778
01:08:48,870 --> 01:08:47,440
no we're still saying that a lot of

1779
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:48,880
strange things are happening and we

1780
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,719
don't understand what they are

1781
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:52,480
and we continue to debate those things

1782
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:55,279
in the forums at form.powercast.com

1783
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,319
in fact

1784
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:58,239
when we announced it

1785
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,319
we started a discussion in our forums at

1786
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:02,880
form.powercast.com

1787
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,640
and i suppose chris is going to check

1788
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:06,719
those questions

1789
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,440
in a few moments and ask them

1790
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:11,120
and let's tell you what's going on

1791
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,400
meantime

1792
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,319
getting to the front that you specialize

1793
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,319
in cattle mutilations

1794
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:18,239
anything new different that we should

1795
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,239
know about

1796
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:21,679
well not really

1797
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,679
you know two percent of all livestock

1798
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:25,600
die every year so

1799
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:27,839
these animals are dying

1800
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:30,080
and um

1801
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:32,839
they're not being reported as mutilated

1802
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,400
so i guess um the debunker's uh

1803
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,080
assertion that this is all just a bunch

1804
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,560
of mass hysteria and misidentified

1805
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,000
scavenger action

1806
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:44,000
that explanation doesn't wash because if

1807
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:45,199
it was true

1808
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:47,520
well we should have mutilation reports

1809
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,839
filtering in you know in a constant

1810
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,120
trickle

1811
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:53,440
but we see down times months even years

1812
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:54,719
at a time

1813
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,239
where we don't have a single report and

1814
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,000
then all of a sudden boom

1815
01:10:02,830 --> 01:09:59,760
reports start coming in because these

1816
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:02,840
cases are real and these are not

1817
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:05,360
misidentified scavenger

1818
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:08,960
uh action cases that uh are

1819
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:12,000
a product of ranching community hysteria

1820
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,760
and so

1821
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,679
when we have these periods where we

1822
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:17,760
don't have cases reported that

1823
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:19,840
to me is one of the

1824
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:22,159
strongest indicators of the reality of

1825
01:10:26,470 --> 01:10:24,800
this phenomenon because

1826
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:26,480
if the cases aren't occurring they

1827
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:29,440
aren't obviously going to be reported

1828
01:10:32,830 --> 01:10:30,560
it's like

1829
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:32,840
in 1971 in

1830
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:35,840
1970 we had uh

1831
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:39,520
hundreds of pigs and hogs were being

1832
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,000
rustled stolen helicopters were being

1833
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,640
sighted in kansas missouri

1834
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:46,320
iowa

1835
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:47,520
and then um

1836
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:50,080
whoever whomever was doing this decided

1837
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,400
hey that this isn't working we're we're

1838
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:54,640
we're creating all sorts of vigilante

1839
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:55,520
groups

1840
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:57,760
that are harmed to the teeth

1841
01:11:01,350 --> 01:10:59,520
firing on choppers

1842
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:01,360
patrolling their

1843
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,920
their their rangeland

1844
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,280
regions

1845
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,480
so in 1972 they pulled back and they

1846
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,520
stopped

1847
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:10,560
stealing

1848
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,880
the livestock and we didn't have a

1849
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,159
single

1850
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:16,800
mutilation report for the entire year of

1851
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:19,760
1972 and then 73

1852
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:22,159
as soon as january hit boom we got

1853
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:26,159
inundated with mutilation cases that you

1854
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:29,199
know peaked in 1975 and then and then

1855
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:33,520
continued on in into the 80s and

1856
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,440
you can't tell me that

1857
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:36,960
all of a sudden scavengers stop

1858
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:39,040
scavenging animals and uh in the

1859
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:41,120
wrestlers stopped wrestling animals

1860
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:44,719
and mutilations uh completely ceased

1861
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:46,560
in the entire

1862
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,440
north american continent for an ex

1863
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:50,960
an entire year

1864
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,840
i mean

1865
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,760
it's just to me that is such an

1866
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:55,840
indication that there is a reality to

1867
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:57,440
this whole phenomenon

1868
01:12:02,470 --> 01:11:59,920
my book goes into great detail

1869
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:02,480
i've been slagged online for being too

1870
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:03,679
detailed

1871
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:06,719
uh putting too many cases in and if the

1872
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:08,880
people out there only knew

1873
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,199
if i put every case that i had data on

1874
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:12,960
in that book it would be thousands of

1875
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:14,400
pages

1876
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,199
i i just encapsulated the waves of of

1877
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,440
cases and then you know

1878
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:21,520
tried to illustrate

1879
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:23,920
important cases that um

1880
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,239
that obviously refute any sort of

1881
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:28,000
mundane scavenger action explanation

1882
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:30,480
that was my point in the book is to show

1883
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:33,040
that these are very real cases

1884
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,320
we don't know the width and breadth of

1885
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,080
what's going on

1886
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,040
in south america uh i'm

1887
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,080
making it uh you know it's front burner

1888
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,199
for me and david perkins to find out

1889
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,440
exactly what is going on down south

1890
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,120
south america where some of the largest

1891
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,199
cattle herds on the planet are located

1892
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,960
where they're cutting down

1893
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,199
square miles of rainforest every week to

1894
01:13:02,149 --> 01:12:59,360
make room for more cattle

1895
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:02,159
we do know that there is a tremendous

1896
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,920
scourge of these cases going on down

1897
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,480
there we don't know to what extent these

1898
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,640
cases are even being reported regionally

1899
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:10,080
down there or

1900
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:11,920
or nationally in the case of brazil and

1901
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,719
argentina and other other uh

1902
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:17,520
cal raising regions so we need to

1903
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,159
marshal our efforts to uh to find out

1904
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,719
the width and breadth and extent of of

1905
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:24,800
reports down in south america and and in

1906
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:26,400
australia though

1907
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:27,679
i think that

1908
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,440
there are cases occurring down there

1909
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:31,280
that aren't being reported

1910
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:33,199
outside local regions so

1911
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:33,920
so

1912
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:36,080
this is a worldwide phenomenon

1913
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,719
we're not seeing the levels of cases uh

1914
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:40,239
here in the united states that we once

1915
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:41,040
saw

1916
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,760
back in the 70s and 80s and 90s we

1917
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:46,560
this is this is definitely uh

1918
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:48,960
you know it's it's

1919
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:53,440
curtailed i think uh to a large extent

1920
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:58,080
um cases do occur again uh last august

1921
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,800
uh 2014 we had seven cases where for no

1922
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,719
county in two days uh these were real

1923
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:04,719
cases these were not

1924
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,400
uh some sort of media induced hysteria

1925
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,239
so you know an answer to your question

1926
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:12,000
hey the thing is still burbling along

1927
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:13,920
but it's not happening in north america

1928
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:16,640
to the extent that it used to and uh and

1929
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:17,920
that's a good thing that means that i

1930
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:19,440
don't have to

1931
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:21,120
you know run around and put 300 000

1932
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:23,199
miles on my truck one of the reasons why

1933
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:24,560
i moved to arizona is because there are

1934
01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:26,560
very few cases reported down here i

1935
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:27,679
figured if i

1936
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:30,080
moved to you know to the location where

1937
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,600
there weren't very many cases i wouldn't

1938
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:32,880
have to deal with

1939
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:36,000
dead necrotic rotting flesh uh

1940
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:37,199
which is probably my least favorite

1941
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,640
thing in the world to do

1942
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:40,640
and you have less wear and tear on your

1943
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,640
motor vehicle yeah yeah i do you know i

1944
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:47,120
i do enough driving i have a job

1945
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,120
as a tour guide i drive

1946
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:51,520
when i go to work it's a 300 mile day

1947
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,149
i'm starting to get arthritis in my left

1948
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:58,000
hand from gripping his steering wheel

1949
01:15:02,470 --> 01:14:59,440
you know

1950
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:02,480
but it's not your vehicle

1951
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,840
well

1952
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,360
i have to drive to work which is you

1953
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,040
know

1954
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:09,520
driving working back to 70 miles

1955
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,120
so uh

1956
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:13,280
then i have to drive another 200 plus

1957
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:16,560
miles to get up to the canyon back so

1958
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,040
well i didn't do near as much i just

1959
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:21,120
drove to my sister-in-law's house today

1960
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,080
about 35 miles in each direction that 70

1961
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,199
took her car to the shop to be fixed

1962
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:29,199
because her driving skills aren't that

1963
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,560
great

1964
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:32,800
so back and forth all those trips maybe

1965
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,960
140 miles

1966
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:36,400
yeah i do that every day i go to work

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01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,520
gene

1968
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:39,520
that's right

1969
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:41,199
well back in new york i used to travel

1970
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:42,880
that distance but i did it by public

1971
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:45,920
transportation how different things are

1972
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:47,600
here in the wilderness

1973
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,320
hey there's a story that came out

1974
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about the search for alien life

1975
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:54,800
and it goes again

1976
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into the speculation about the

1977
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:58,239
possibility

1978
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:00,800
that there is gradual disclosure

1979
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and this article actually was posted as

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we were doing the show to show you how

1981
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current we are i'm going to tell you

1982
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about it in a few moments all right

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we're doing shop talk 2015 we invite you

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to go to

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plus.thepowercast.com to check out after

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the powercast

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which is available exclusively for

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more to come with gina and chris you're

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leaders of organizations who've been

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waiting for the right time to build

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wait any longer with rock bottom prices

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buildings at prices you will never see

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again don't miss these prices a 50 by

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100 for 35 000 you heard right that's 5

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000 square feet for thirty five thousand

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dollars manufacturers if you need a

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larger building try a 100 by 100

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commercial building for 129 000. you

2080
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can't afford to rent with these prices

2081
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imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building

2082
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for under 69 000 with the economy

2083
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improving and interest rates still at

2084
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historic lows you can't afford to wait

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so call 866 91 steel lock in your price

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[Music]

2087
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,510
hi this is bryce abel i'm the producer

2088
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,679
of dark skies the co-author of ad after

2089
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:01,440
disclosure and you are listening to the

2090
01:21:05,390 --> 01:21:04,800
paracast the gold standard of paranormal

2091
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:05,400
radio

2092
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,790
shop talk 2015 with gina and chris and

2093
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:15,199
the cast and there's an article in the

2094
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:18,719
washington post speaking of science

2095
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:19,920
section

2096
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:23,040
why nasa's top scientist is sure

2097
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,480
that we'll find signs of alien life

2098
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:28,400
in the next decade

2099
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,360
ah

2100
01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:31,920
they're quoting the l.a times

2101
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:34,080
and the fellow they're talking to is

2102
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:35,040
ellen

2103
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:37,440
stofan who is the chief scientist for

2104
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,480
nasa who says i believe we are going to

2105
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:42,400
have strong indications

2106
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,280
of life beyond earth in the next decade

2107
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,600
and definitive evidence in the next 10

2108
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:49,679
to 20 years

2109
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:51,679
the next paragraph says the search has

2110
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,400
taken a number of forms but one of the

2111
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,040
most important facets has been the task

2112
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:59,040
of searching the universe for signs of

2113
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:00,560
liquid water

2114
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,239
which contains some of the essential

2115
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,400
building blocks of life

2116
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:06,560
as we know it they mentioned of course

2117
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:07,920
that mars

2118
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:10,400
apparently once had an expanse of water

2119
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:12,320
not there anymore

2120
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:16,639
europa one of the wounds of jupiter has

2121
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,639
ice

2122
01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:20,639
hmm

2123
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,040
does it exist in liquid form maybe below

2124
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:25,040
the surface of the moon

2125
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:26,400
hmm

2126
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:28,239
gradual disclosure

2127
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:29,120
hmm

2128
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,719
what's your take

2129
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:32,639
i don't know you know i'm getting so

2130
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,320
jaded gene

2131
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:36,960
i i hate to admit it but

2132
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,679
i'm trying to be optimistic

2133
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,840
anytime a mainstream publication comes

2134
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:43,840
out with a quote from

2135
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:45,600
a nasa scientist

2136
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:50,830
you know

2137
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,480
uh i mean yeah in a perfect world

2138
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:56,880
all these uh wonderful quotes would uh

2139
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,600
would all be real and come true but

2140
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:02,239
i'm really uh of the mind to to think

2141
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:05,760
that uh we're constantly going to be

2142
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,760
chasing after

2143
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:09,520
evidence of

2144
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:12,000
alien life until that alien life decides

2145
01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:14,480
to make its presence known i i think

2146
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:17,120
they're in the driver's seat we're not

2147
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,040
i don't think that uh

2148
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:21,120
you know the seti project uh the search

2149
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:23,199
for extraterrestrial um

2150
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,639
intelligence

2151
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,800
i mean looking for

2152
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:28,639
signs of life

2153
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,000
in the

2154
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:32,320
the spectrum of radio waves to me is is

2155
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:35,360
the most ludicrous time wasting money

2156
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:36,560
gobbling

2157
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:38,320
boondoggle ever conceived by the

2158
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,400
scientific community and

2159
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:43,120
and and for shame that they should be so

2160
01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:45,810
short-sighted and and so

2161
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,040
[Music]

2162
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:49,360
neanderthal in their

2163
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:51,040
attempts

2164
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:52,080
it's just

2165
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:53,760
to me

2166
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,360
i think we should just

2167
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:57,600
really work on

2168
01:24:01,750 --> 01:24:00,239
getting our own house in order

2169
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:01,760
there are so many problems on this

2170
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,480
planet that are not being addressed uh

2171
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,560
just the amount of grain that we use to

2172
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:08,320
fatten up cattle in this country could

2173
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,040
feed two billion starving people on this

2174
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:13,760
planet just the grain in this country

2175
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:14,800
you know

2176
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:18,320
it's it's force for the trees we really

2177
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:19,840
need to start

2178
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,600
addressing

2179
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:23,520
adequately

2180
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:24,719
serious

2181
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:27,040
issues um that we're experiencing on

2182
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,320
this planet

2183
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,400
anytime you start talking about

2184
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:32,560
anything that has to do with anything

2185
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:36,080
that is not solving or current

2186
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:39,520
crises and issues on this planet to me

2187
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,880
is

2188
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:43,679
it's like sleight of hand uh magic

2189
01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:46,320
it's keeping us occupied

2190
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:48,000
with

2191
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:50,400
what i consider to be inconsequential

2192
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,000
issues

2193
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:54,560
while we ignore or allow

2194
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,600
the public to be a nerd

2195
01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:59,520
and ignore

2196
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:01,199
pressing problems on this planet there

2197
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:02,480
are so many things that we need to

2198
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,000
address

2199
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:06,239
that are being totally

2200
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,159
just left by the wayside

2201
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,320
by the public and we're allowing our

2202
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,480
politicians we're allowing the the

2203
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:15,440
people who have accumulated

2204
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:16,960
grotesque

2205
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:19,520
obscene amounts of wealth

2206
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:22,320
uh to get away with murder

2207
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:25,360
and uh we're useless eaters

2208
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:28,000
we need to consume

2209
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:30,159
shut the hell up and die

2210
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,199
that's

2211
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,120
our mandate

2212
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,440
and anything that

2213
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,120
goes against that

2214
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:39,199
is a real problem and will be dealt with

2215
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:41,920
by the powers that be and uh we need to

2216
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:43,199
uh

2217
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,960
we need to really i think seriously

2218
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:46,400
reassess

2219
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,199
what our priorities are

2220
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,239
and get busy and get working uh

2221
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,199
stop watching our freaking tvs

2222
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:57,600
stop watching our thumbs

2223
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:00,239
stop taking selfies

2224
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:02,080
when i go up to the canyon the amount of

2225
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:04,880
people i see with these selfie sticks

2226
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:07,520
is is is it just

2227
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,560
it's repugnant that there's so many

2228
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:12,960
narcissistic

2229
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:15,600
a-holes on this planet that think

2230
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,679
that they're important enough to

2231
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,320
don't get me started

2232
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:23,920
i see this whole culture

2233
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:26,080
spinning down a drain

2234
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:27,520
and uh

2235
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:30,960
as we progress further along the faster

2236
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:33,520
and tighter that spin is

2237
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:34,800
and

2238
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:37,679
the more catastrophic that

2239
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,480
whooshing sound of the flush

2240
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,800
uh is going to be and uh we need to

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01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:44,400
really get our

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01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:47,120
our proverbial act together as a culture

2243
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:50,239
as individuals we need to prioritize

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01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,600
what's important

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01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,440
and

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01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:55,280
here i am talking about all this on a

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01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:56,080
show

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01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:59,120
that covers the paranormal

2249
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:00,719
well i should tell you since we talk

2250
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,400
about our diets today i had for lunch a

2251
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:06,400
veggie burger

2252
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:12,159
maybe too much junk in there but still

2253
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,120
yeah

2254
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:15,600
good old genetically modified organisms

2255
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:18,400
are running rampant in your life gene

2256
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:19,760
everybody's life

2257
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:21,199
i mean the amount of gmos that we

2258
01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:24,239
consume every day uh that are hidden

2259
01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:27,120
is is frightening uh

2260
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:30,320
it's the powers of of of monsanto and

2261
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:32,880
and these huge corporations that are

2262
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:36,000
that are sneaking by

2263
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:37,679
you know you wonder why you know your

2264
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:39,600
vegetables don't rot in the fridge now

2265
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,040
you know

2266
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:43,199
how can that broccoli stay fresh for so

2267
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:45,760
so many weeks

2268
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:47,600
it used to become a science experiment

2269
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:51,280
fairly quickly now it's uh

2270
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,320
it's interesting how they're

2271
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:56,639
you know how things uh are not

2272
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,360
quite the way they seem

2273
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,880
yeah but you have to think about this

2274
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:02,320
way chris

2275
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,960
why assume that this genetic

2276
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:06,400
modification

2277
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:09,360
of our crops is bad

2278
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:12,000
well it's it's a giant unregulated uh

2279
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:13,360
health experiment as far as i'm

2280
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:14,960
concerned uh

2281
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:17,120
we don't know enough

2282
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:20,000
about uh we're tinkering with processes

2283
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,120
that have taken millions of years to

2284
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,920
to evolve and

2285
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:27,440
we're throwing

2286
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:29,920
nature's uh

2287
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,360
you know

2288
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:33,440
nature's manner and method out the

2289
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,120
window when we start

2290
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,520
uh when we start tinkering with

2291
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,920
with these things um i'm not saying that

2292
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,679
they're all bad i'm sure there's there's

2293
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:43,520
plenty of good that can be had but we

2294
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,510
the effect that these

2295
01:28:55,189 --> 01:28:52,000
tinkerines will have

2296
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:55,199
on human health and on the state of the

2297
01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:58,560
eco uh systems uh the environment

2298
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:01,360
you know uh these

2299
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,390
you know don't replenish themselves i

2300
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:10,560
mean these are hybrid seeds so they they

2301
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:12,320
the plant grows and then does not

2302
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:14,719
restock itself and

2303
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:16,560
produce seed to uh

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01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:19,199
to continue on like uh

2305
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,080
nature

2306
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:22,639
intended and uh that can't be a good

2307
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:26,719
thing gene it cannot be a good thing

2308
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,880
we don't know

2309
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:30,320
how these

2310
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:32,800
genetically modified organisms uh what

2311
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:34,800
their long-term impacts on human health

2312
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:37,600
and the environment are period

2313
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:40,400
we're breeding uh we're tinkering with

2314
01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:43,520
seeds and we're creating seeds that

2315
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,360
actually exude pesticides for instance

2316
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:49,760
and we're eating

2317
01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:50,719
these

2318
01:29:56,790 --> 01:29:53,920
seeds that are created to keep pests off

2319
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:56,800
of them to keep insects away from them

2320
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:59,520
so they're actually

2321
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:01,120
producing

2322
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:02,880
toxins

2323
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:04,719
now you can't tell me that that's good

2324
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:07,120
for you you know

2325
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:09,440
seeds in plants that are growing

2326
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:12,960
uh that actually are designed to produce

2327
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,840
um pesticides

2328
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:18,320
so that it increases crop yields and and

2329
01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:21,199
keeps um and keeps the amount of

2330
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:24,560
the pesticide damage down um these

2331
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,440
go ahead tell me that's good for you

2332
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,600
i won't but i will tell you this

2333
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:31,360
with gene and chris you're in the

2334
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independently leading the way for the

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nation compelling talk for every

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political persuasion we are

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gcn

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attention taxpayers if you've received a

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notice from the irs or state do not

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ignore it it's also a big mistake to try

2341
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and handle your tax problem on your own

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if you owe back taxes it's a fact that

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the government has the power to take

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everything you own including your home

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but here's the good news there's a

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2449
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:10,320
well he's telling me that all the food

2450
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:11,679
i'm eating

2451
01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:14,639
is so tainted that i'm probably going to

2452
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,960
die young which is too late because i'm

2453
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:17,920
old

2454
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:20,159
maybe i'm not even here now think about

2455
01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:21,840
that i'm not telling you that everything

2456
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,080
that you eat is is bad i'm just saying

2457
01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:26,239
that we don't know the the overall

2458
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,600
health and environmental effects of

2459
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:29,520
these science experiments

2460
01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:31,520
you have to believe that

2461
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,360
the food and drug administration cares

2462
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,440
but budget cutbacks

2463
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:37,040
mean you don't have the proper

2464
01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:39,040
inspections anymore

2465
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:41,199
so there is that value in it wait a

2466
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:43,600
minute they have to have the the fda and

2467
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:44,400
the

2468
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:49,199
made up of monsanto vice presidents uh

2469
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:50,320
it's a round

2470
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:51,360
table

2471
01:35:54,790 --> 01:35:53,440
they go into the private sector

2472
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,800
and they figure out what it is that they

2473
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,639
need to regulate they go and become

2474
01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,400
regulators and then make sure that

2475
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:00,800
labeling laws are compromised and that

2476
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:02,080
uh

2477
01:36:05,910 --> 01:36:03,199
you know

2478
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:05,920
certain uh corporate agendas are enacted

2479
01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:07,840
through the regulatory process

2480
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:10,400
uh regulations are relaxed uh

2481
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:12,960
inspections are curtailed numbers of

2482
01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:15,760
inspectors are drastically reduced

2483
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:17,440
um it's

2484
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:20,400
it's the power of big money exerting

2485
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:24,800
undue influence over the process

2486
01:36:28,709 --> 01:36:26,480
correct me if i'm wrong

2487
01:36:31,110 --> 01:36:28,719
i'm not saying a thing

2488
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:31,120
i would know about the revolving door

2489
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,400
even when they claim there is no

2490
01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:34,560
revolving door we still have it and even

2491
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:36,000
going back to a discussion we had

2492
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:38,560
earlier in the show about whether there

2493
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,880
is a secret about ufos being kept by the

2494
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:42,719
government and i mentioned private

2495
01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:44,239
industry and i said well you know a lot

2496
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:45,440
of these companies

2497
01:36:48,629 --> 01:36:46,800
maybe

2498
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:48,639
these are the politicians they pay off

2499
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:50,560
so if they know what's going on they

2500
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:52,880
won't let us know if there is advanced

2501
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:54,880
alien technology do you think the koch

2502
01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:55,920
brothers

2503
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:58,639
are going to allow that to be revealed

2504
01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:59,520
and me

2505
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:01,440
hell no

2506
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,280
the koch brothers

2507
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:06,000
man i'll tell you if there were two

2508
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:07,600
nefarious

2509
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:09,520
guys that need to be gang raped in some

2510
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:12,000
prison um i i couldn't think of better

2511
01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:16,550
wait a minute

2512
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:21,199
just next time you go in your car watch

2513
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:22,239
out

2514
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,360
next time you use georgia pacific

2515
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:26,960
paper

2516
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:28,800
watch out

2517
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:32,159
next time you use bounty paper towels

2518
01:37:36,629 --> 01:37:34,639
watch out because it's their company

2519
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:36,639
yeah i'd like to

2520
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:38,239
you didn't know that did you you know

2521
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:39,920
i'd like to get them in the dark room

2522
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:41,199
and

2523
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,800
read them the right act

2524
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:46,320
those guys are

2525
01:37:49,669 --> 01:37:48,320
they are the problem they're not part of

2526
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:49,679
any solution

2527
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:51,600
i don't care if i wipe my ass with their

2528
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,000
products or not uh i

2529
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,639
they're not part of the solution

2530
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:58,560
we have another solution coming up right

2531
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:59,520
now

2532
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,440
a special guest

2533
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:03,119
our surprise guest actually mentioned

2534
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:04,560
him earlier but

2535
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:07,280
he got home late from his real job

2536
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:09,679
because this is not his real job

2537
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,320
it's robert known to our forum members

2538
01:38:16,709 --> 01:38:14,400
as burnt state

2539
01:38:18,790 --> 01:38:16,719
welcome back to the power cast sir

2540
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:18,800
greetings guys thanks for having me

2541
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:20,880
now before you got on we've spent like

2542
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:22,159
half the show

2543
01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:27,600
complaining about the sitting and raving

2544
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:28,880
oh we

2545
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:30,719
were just going on about the sad state

2546
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:33,040
of ufo research we quoted this statement

2547
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:35,119
from stanton friedman why he won't get

2548
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:37,679
involved in roswell's slides

2549
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:39,600
the ufo field is going to hell in a

2550
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:41,280
bread basket

2551
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,280
is that a good introduction for you

2552
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,360
yeah that's pretty uh good one i think

2553
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:47,360
that's a general commentary and you look

2554
01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,960
at some of the the threads uh people

2555
01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:50,719
have been mentioning a lot of the the

2556
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:52,800
same piece and i think that's a general

2557
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:55,520
problem is that there is real no way of

2558
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:58,639
understanding the ufology um environment

2559
01:39:01,910 --> 01:39:00,400
there's no there's no college you know

2560
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:01,920
there's an invisible college but that's

2561
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:04,560
for a very select number of of people

2562
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,320
and with regards to anyone who's either

2563
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,400
a commentator or even a long-term uh

2564
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,239
researcher investigator there's there's

2565
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:13,119
no structured environment uh in the wake

2566
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,520
of all the large ufo organizations kind

2567
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,600
of collapsing or turning to commercial

2568
01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:19,520
enterprises there's nothing really for

2569
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:22,080
anybody else to to grab onto or a path

2570
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:24,159
or a direction to say okay that's that's

2571
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:25,679
where i can get the good information

2572
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:27,199
from and it's so much of it is

2573
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,520
commercialized i think it's a it's a sad

2574
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,520
state of affairs and very difficult for

2575
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:33,199
it for new people and even old people to

2576
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,040
to find their way through it all

2577
01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:37,520
don't hold back

2578
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,360
well i think the the one piece that that

2579
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,280
did come out in in one of the threads i

2580
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,360
know one one member uh bumped a thread

2581
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:45,280
about uh the skeptics and calling all

2582
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:47,119
skeptics and that was a a good debate

2583
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:48,639
that kind of brought up the the notion

2584
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,480
of the ethb so there's a lot of people

2585
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,560
who still hold firm to eth and i know

2586
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:54,880
i've heard you and chris both uh take

2587
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,040
that one apart on the show

2588
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,360
a number of times and for for for good

2589
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,440
reason as well too but i think that's

2590
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:03,360
another interesting piece is how how

2591
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:05,600
evolved has the field become and and

2592
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,040
while i think there is substantial

2593
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,360
evolution that that's out there uh

2594
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:11,440
because nobody again has no real

2595
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:13,199
direction of what to glam on to who

2596
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,800
who's you know a guiding light in the

2597
01:40:18,629 --> 01:40:16,800
field i don't really see those things

2598
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:18,639
out there instead we see a lot of

2599
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,719
problematic pieces whether it's griers

2600
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:22,719
crowdsourcing and raising money for his

2601
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:25,440
own uh personal gain or or venture but

2602
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:27,600
there's real no area or forum i mean

2603
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:28,800
outside of say something like the

2604
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:30,880
pericast forums or i guess other above

2605
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:33,119
top secret other places for people to

2606
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,920
really get a handle on or discuss uh

2607
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:36,960
progress

2608
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:38,719
and evolution in the field

2609
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:40,719
and an evolution seems to be restricted

2610
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:43,119
now to a very select group of people

2611
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,280
somebody had posted up about having jack

2612
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:47,760
valet on there and in there they posted

2613
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:50,080
uh i guess the most recent meeting of

2614
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,239
gaipan in france and that was some

2615
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,159
months ago and you look at who's on the

2616
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,080
bill and who's on the list this is very

2617
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,920
interesting material it's a lot of

2618
01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:00,159
scientists it's a closed group of people

2619
01:41:03,750 --> 01:41:01,840
and nobody gets to play in there and

2620
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:03,760
that doesn't filter down to the general

2621
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:06,159
public and so all we've got to go on

2622
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,159
then is whatever we can source and find

2623
01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:09,920
online latest books that that come

2624
01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:11,840
through but you don't see that concept

2625
01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:14,639
of collaboration collegiality or even

2626
01:41:18,070 --> 01:41:16,320
that concept of a college you know a

2627
01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:18,080
place where people can get real real

2628
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,560
information and and kind of follow

2629
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:22,560
current trends and and what's evolving

2630
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:23,679
in the field

2631
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,679
now for those wondering about some of

2632
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:27,360
his buzz words there

2633
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:30,560
the slang threads are topics in our

2634
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:33,440
forum at forum.theparacast.com

2635
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:35,600
and one great way to find out what kind

2636
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:37,760
of discussions are happening

2637
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,679
in paranormal research is check our

2638
01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:42,000
forums see what makes people

2639
01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:44,159
angry or happy

2640
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:45,760
and it's interesting here as i look it

2641
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:48,080
over and i expected some pretty wild

2642
01:41:53,669 --> 01:41:51,280
flame wars when james carrion came back

2643
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,679
and he was arguing in favor of the

2644
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,199
possibility that

2645
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:57,280
we had disinformation agents playing

2646
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,679
around with ghost rockets and possibly

2647
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:01,679
roswell and we have people who disagree

2648
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:04,719
with that but they were very very civil

2649
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:06,719
it's a credit perhaps to the people that

2650
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:09,360
are are online in terms of uh who's

2651
01:42:13,910 --> 01:42:11,600
following the these types of discussions

2652
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:13,920
that it is it is civil i think people

2653
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,400
recognize that carrion's focusing on a

2654
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:18,960
very specific agenda uh certainly a

2655
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,800
large part of the agenda is his agenda

2656
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:23,040
and from what i see it seems to me he is

2657
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:24,639
trying to i don't know if there's some

2658
01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:26,960
um a grudge piece perhaps that might be

2659
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:28,400
underlying that but it seems like he was

2660
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,760
trying to shake some of the foundations

2661
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,000
of ufology and picking apart some of the

2662
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:34,719
big early pieces that really define uh

2663
01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:37,440
ufology's birth in america by taking

2664
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,119
apart you know the kenneth arnold the

2665
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:42,639
ghost rockets a roswell mori island uh

2666
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:44,639
you know he's going after those big

2667
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,239
initial periods in that very specific

2668
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:48,159
time period and by playing in that

2669
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,080
isolated zone

2670
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,080
what he's doing is making a very core

2671
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:53,840
argument in one way but he's not

2672
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,000
acknowledging everything that surrounds

2673
01:43:00,310 --> 01:42:58,719
it either before or after and i thought

2674
01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:00,320
the interesting piece that he brought up

2675
01:43:03,910 --> 01:43:01,760
it was even

2676
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:03,920
giving some credibility to the idea of

2677
01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:06,000
abductions i thought that really shocked

2678
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:08,000
me that he dropped that line in there

2679
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:09,440
because that just doesn't seem to be in

2680
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:11,760
keeping with the the hardcore analysis

2681
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,760
that he's bringing to wanting to rattle

2682
01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,360
some chains it seems

2683
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:17,199
that was an interesting contradiction or

2684
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:18,880
not a contradiction

2685
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,199
but it shows here that he apparently at

2686
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:22,960
the heart of everything

2687
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,600
has a serious interest in the subject

2688
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:27,600
that he believes there's something to it

2689
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,239
and uses abductions as an example

2690
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:32,560
but he's saying look there are a lot of

2691
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,199
things in the ufo field they're not what

2692
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:37,920
they're cracked up to be let's get them

2693
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,000
out of the picture stop talking about

2694
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,560
them and deal with the real phenomenon

2695
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,760
in this field

2696
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:45,760
which i think is is an admirable piece i

2697
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:48,639
mean we need that hardcore research uh

2698
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:49,840
unfortunately when you look at the

2699
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:52,159
totality of it all and so i appreciate

2700
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:53,840
what he's up to and i appreciate he's

2701
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:55,760
trying to call people out and and bring

2702
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:58,560
mufon to task i guess in terms of is

2703
01:44:02,149 --> 01:44:00,239
this about science or is it not about

2704
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:02,159
science now i didn't see him on the

2705
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,159
invite list that gay pen and maybe he

2706
01:44:08,470 --> 01:44:05,760
was there he certainly wasn't a

2707
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:08,480
presenter but i think he's in very niche

2708
01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:10,719
territory i think there's there's bigger

2709
01:44:15,109 --> 01:44:13,040
pieces to fry which is we have collected

2710
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:15,119
so much data like over the years

2711
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:17,440
incredible amounts of data radar data

2712
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:19,920
sightings data abduction commentaries

2713
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,760
lists go on and on and on each

2714
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:24,000
organization's got tons of data and what

2715
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:25,760
to do with it all it does it even say

2716
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:27,440
anything at the end of the day and i

2717
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:28,960
guess that's the interesting direction

2718
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:30,880
that valet's been going in and and two

2719
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:32,880
things got brought up in the form thread

2720
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:34,560
on valet is one he's been working with

2721
01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:37,280
bigelow on a project called capella

2722
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:39,920
where he's doing data mining there but

2723
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:42,000
the workshop that he was presenting at

2724
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,000
this uh event in paris

2725
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:46,719
was on strategies basically for for data

2726
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,639
mining and what do we do with it all and

2727
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:50,880
can we do anything with it that's where

2728
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:53,600
i really beg to differ with the good

2729
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,000
doctor i don't think anything anecdotal

2730
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:59,440
is going to take us uh move us forward i

2731
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:02,239
think we need to do real real-time

2732
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,440
hard data monitoring of hotspot areas

2733
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:07,520
and and get real-time data

2734
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:09,360
and stop

2735
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:11,199
looking backwards in time

2736
01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:14,239
relying on anecdotes to try to explain

2737
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:16,719
uh the phenomenon let's do our break

2738
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,199
here we have burnt state joining gene

2739
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:21,119
and chris for shop talk more to come

2740
01:45:30,629 --> 01:45:27,590
[Music]

2741
01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:30,639
great minds think alike the network for

2742
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:33,280
the independent minded the genesis

2743
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:37,520
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2744
01:45:41,830 --> 01:45:39,920
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2745
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:41,840
things happen to good people like when

2746
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:43,679
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2747
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:45,679
do anything about it but when my legal

2748
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,440
shield attorney called him and told him

2749
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:49,440
what my rights were i received a check

2750
01:45:53,629 --> 01:45:51,440
for over twenty one hundred dollars

2751
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:53,639
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2752
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:57,119
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2753
01:46:02,310 --> 01:45:59,679
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2754
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2755
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:05,199
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2756
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:07,119
vary from case to case

2757
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:09,040
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2758
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:10,960
engrave ink embed strips and fibers to

2759
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:12,639
protect from counterfeit then carting to

2760
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,400
a private bank having it led back at

2761
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,480
interest forcing taxes to service debt

2762
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:18,320
this capitalism or was jefferson correct

2763
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,920
when stating a central bank issuing the

2764
01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:21,520
public currency is a greater menace to

2765
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:22,800
the liberties of the people than a

2766
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:24,480
standing army hi ted anderson i'm

2767
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:25,840
placing a free silver dollar in a book

2768
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that explains our monetary system call

2769
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for your copy

2770
01:46:33,550 --> 01:46:31,840
800-686-2237 it's time to understand the

2771
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:33,560
system call

2772
01:46:44,629 --> 01:46:42,550
this alert just came in this special

2773
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:44,639
announcement is for business owners and

2774
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:46,719
leaders of organizations who've been

2775
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:49,440
waiting for the right time to build

2776
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:51,440
general steel has made it impossible to

2777
01:46:55,669 --> 01:46:53,440
wait any longer with rock bottom prices

2778
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,679
that could save you thousands that's

2779
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:57,840
right general steele america's leader in

2780
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,000
pre-engineered structures is offering

2781
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:01,920
buildings at prices you will never see

2782
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:04,400
again don't miss these prices a 50 by

2783
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:07,520
100 for 35 000 you heard right that's

2784
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:08,960
five thousand square feet for thirty

2785
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,880
five thousand dollars manufacturers if

2786
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:12,960
you need a larger building try a 100 by

2787
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:16,159
100 commercial building for 129 000. you

2788
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:17,920
can't afford to rent with these prices

2789
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:20,159
imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building

2790
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:22,080
for under 69 000

2791
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:24,159
with the economy improving and interest

2792
01:47:30,629 --> 01:47:26,400
rates still at historic lows you can't

2793
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:30,639
afford to wait so call 866 91 steel lock

2794
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:34,560
in your price now call 866 91 steel

2795
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:49,510
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2796
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:53,199
standard of paranormal radio

2797
01:47:57,740 --> 01:47:54,480
and now

2798
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:57,750
here's jane steinberg

2799
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,480
[Music]

2800
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:02,400
burnt state has joined us

2801
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:04,960
with gene and chris on the power cache

2802
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:08,080
shop talk 2015. so chris you want to add

2803
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:10,000
to your response before we go back to

2804
01:48:14,390 --> 01:48:11,280
berkeley yeah

2805
01:48:16,229 --> 01:48:14,400
i was saying that anecdotal data and and

2806
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:16,239
creating these these wonderful exalted

2807
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:17,600
databases

2808
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:20,000
is really not going to move the the or

2809
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:22,159
understanding and the field

2810
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,080
forward it's just not a garbage in

2811
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:26,080
garbage out all you need is

2812
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,760
a certain percentage of the data to not

2813
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:29,920
be accurate or

2814
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:31,600
you know it's that garbage and garbage

2815
01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:33,600
out scenario and and it doesn't take

2816
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:35,520
much to skew

2817
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:39,040
statistical analysis um if if your data

2818
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:41,199
is not you know you can't take it to the

2819
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:43,600
bank and really rely on it i think that

2820
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:44,639
we need to

2821
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:46,880
take a instrumented

2822
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,080
approach

2823
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:50,400
wire up hot spot areas

2824
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:53,199
and gather scientifically viable data

2825
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:55,440
that is irrefutable

2826
01:49:02,709 --> 01:48:59,760
you can refute anything that's anecdotal

2827
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:02,719
if you allow yourself

2828
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:04,000
the luxury

2829
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,360
of creating

2830
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:07,040
instrumented

2831
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:08,560
uh

2832
01:49:12,070 --> 01:49:09,440
you know

2833
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:12,080
setups of of instruments

2834
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:16,080
that monitor real-time activity you're

2835
01:49:19,590 --> 01:49:17,840
going to have a much

2836
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,600
easier time convincing science

2837
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:21,679
convincing people that something is is

2838
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:22,880
real and

2839
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:25,920
and and deserves further study uh i i

2840
01:49:29,590 --> 01:49:28,000
just think anything looking backwards uh

2841
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:29,600
trying to data mine

2842
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:31,920
is a waste of time i really do i think

2843
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:33,920
we need to throw all that out the window

2844
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:36,080
and start fresh

2845
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:38,239
and start start from scratch and do it

2846
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,600
do it the right way

2847
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:40,960
what do you think

2848
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:42,639
that was one of the criticisms uh

2849
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:44,239
leveled at him and somebody had posted a

2850
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,239
good follow-up article to the conference

2851
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:47,920
that said pretty much the same thing and

2852
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,239
even valet said you know if i can cherry

2853
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:52,480
pick the data i can prove any hypothesis

2854
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:54,719
you want i'll prove eth i'll prove idh

2855
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:57,440
i'll prove psychosocial uh it's easy to

2856
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:00,320
do that the the bigger issue was what

2857
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:02,560
kind of filtering

2858
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:05,280
methods are being used to actually

2859
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:08,080
accumulate the data and determine uh

2860
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:10,800
what's the the good data to look at

2861
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:13,199
well how long does it take though robert

2862
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:14,880
for us to find

2863
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,360
some level of research going on here we

2864
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,719
have all this

2865
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:19,920
data

2866
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,239
dating back to the 1940s even if we

2867
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:25,119
subtract the stuff that james carry on

2868
01:50:29,189 --> 01:50:26,400
questions

2869
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:29,199
ghost rockets roswell whatever certainly

2870
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:30,960
we all discount mori allen except it's

2871
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,199
some kind of intelligence thing sure we

2872
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:35,920
discount that where do we begin to sit

2873
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:38,480
down and try to find actual answers to

2874
01:50:43,590 --> 01:50:39,679
this

2875
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:43,600
until somebody is going to decide to

2876
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:46,400
legitimize the field whether it's

2877
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:49,360
legitimized scientifically it's at

2878
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:51,280
higher areas of learning uh there's

2879
01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:53,360
institutions that are created if it

2880
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:55,760
really means that much to society but

2881
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:58,560
without that it's always being restarted

2882
01:51:02,310 --> 01:51:00,400
recycled you're always going over the

2883
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:02,320
same old cases or you're going over

2884
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:03,920
cases that were disputed and being

2885
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:06,080
brought back to life again and and i

2886
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:08,560
think that's really the the sad part of

2887
01:51:12,390 --> 01:51:10,080
the field because there has been good

2888
01:51:13,910 --> 01:51:12,400
data there has been good thinking when

2889
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:13,920
you look across the history of it

2890
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:16,400
there's been some exceptional theorizing

2891
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:18,960
some wonderful uh diversity of thought

2892
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,080
uh that's been applied uh to the problem

2893
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,080
but it's always restarting itself and

2894
01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:26,159
it's also caught up in a lot of you know

2895
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:27,920
mudslinging uh and again because there's

2896
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:29,840
no referee out there there's no referee

2897
01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:32,080
there's no uh individual saying here's

2898
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:33,760
the legit piece you know i think as

2899
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:36,159
close as we've got to that is uh is

2900
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,400
jerome clark's encyclopedia you know

2901
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:40,159
that that's the big tomb that was

2902
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:42,159
written up that kind of covered a large

2903
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:44,000
historical piece and he

2904
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:45,760
laid claim and said okay here's the

2905
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:48,560
legit cases here's the hoaxes uh here's

2906
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:50,159
actual events that took place here's

2907
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:52,560
what's been recorded and that's i think

2908
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,159
the only real you know that's a starting

2909
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,639
point at least but beyond that it's

2910
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:58,239
really everybody's individual you know

2911
01:52:02,070 --> 01:51:59,920
as chris pointed out you know you can

2912
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,080
you can take whatever you want and and

2913
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:03,840
and say whatever you want without that

2914
01:52:08,229 --> 01:52:05,920
content so now that's our big dilemmas

2915
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,239
there's no no legitimate body or

2916
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:10,400
organization that's actually building

2917
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,400
upon the past and if you don't build

2918
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:14,880
upon the past in a legitimate manner

2919
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:16,560
then people just continue to argue and

2920
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,360
debate and it really it's a it's a

2921
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,360
broken horse is what it is

2922
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:23,360
we have to look at the fact for example

2923
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:27,040
that mufon got started in 1969

2924
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:28,719
and they're still here

2925
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:31,440
and what have they done what

2926
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:33,920
evidence have they presented

2927
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:35,840
that science can look at

2928
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:38,000
and figure out what's going on where is

2929
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:38,719
it

2930
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,639
they've been here since 1969 they've got

2931
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,400
to have a ton of this stuff

2932
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:44,639
but i also like the fact that mufon

2933
01:52:49,030 --> 01:52:46,880
started i think within six months of

2934
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:49,040
project blue book officially closing its

2935
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:50,320
doors

2936
01:52:54,629 --> 01:52:52,880
you find that significant

2937
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,639
yeah i do

2938
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:56,320
um

2939
01:53:02,629 --> 01:52:59,360
for obvious reasons i think that uh

2940
01:53:04,390 --> 01:53:02,639
you know blue book was out it was a pr

2941
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:04,400
exercise uh

2942
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:06,960
almost a necessary evil

2943
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:07,840
on the

2944
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:09,280
part of the air force and i think that

2945
01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:12,159
uh that mufon was created to to

2946
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:14,480
basically uh vacuum cleaner up as many

2947
01:53:16,870 --> 01:53:15,280
uh

2948
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:16,880
sighting reports from

2949
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,800
you know the civilian population as

2950
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:20,320
possible

2951
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:23,280
um to go down uh into

2952
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:24,880
you know what many have been talking

2953
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:27,599
about for years is is a black hole

2954
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:29,520
and it was only through the efforts of

2955
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,159
of james carrion and uh in in a lesser

2956
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:34,800
way uh john schussler that we have

2957
01:53:40,070 --> 01:53:37,520
uh any sort of transparency

2958
01:53:42,070 --> 01:53:40,080
and any sort of access to all these uh

2959
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:42,080
all these files that have been

2960
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:43,599
you know

2961
01:53:46,790 --> 01:53:45,760
the tens of thousands of siding reports

2962
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:46,800
that have been

2963
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:49,920
you know accumulated by mufon since 1969

2964
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,480
since you know within months of the the

2965
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:54,080
closing of project blue book i don't

2966
01:53:58,709 --> 01:53:56,000
think that that's uh an accident and not

2967
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,719
enough people take that into account

2968
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:00,880
so would you say that the bigelow piece

2969
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,880
now that's vacuuming up everything is

2970
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:05,040
just replay of that time period where

2971
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:06,880
again data is just disappearing

2972
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:08,000
somewhere and it looks like it's going

2973
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,520
to move towards perhaps private

2974
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:11,119
interests

2975
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:15,520
well i think the real important cases uh

2976
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:18,560
uh the cases that may

2977
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:19,679
you know

2978
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:20,960
i think that there's there's some sort

2979
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:22,400
of red herring

2980
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:25,440
uh effort going on uh you know on one

2981
01:54:28,709 --> 01:54:27,040
sense but i think there's also red flag

2982
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:28,719
cases that are being

2983
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:31,679
uh looked for and and when when it when

2984
01:54:35,189 --> 01:54:33,599
a particular case

2985
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:35,199
um

2986
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:38,159
hits uh a certain set of uh parameters

2987
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,199
or alerts that that that case is is uh

2988
01:54:45,030 --> 01:54:43,520
is siphoned off and

2989
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:45,040
and uh i don't

2990
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:47,440
i i think that they know what to look

2991
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:48,560
for

2992
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:50,000
when i say there i mean the powers that

2993
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,480
be i i think that there is

2994
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:54,719
a certain amount of educational

2995
01:54:57,589 --> 01:54:56,480
awareness

2996
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,599
of um

2997
01:55:01,990 --> 01:54:59,840
of indicators uh within uh witness

2998
01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,000
descriptions of um

2999
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:04,400
you know what possible uh

3000
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:05,599
um

3001
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:07,760
patterns of activity let's say

3002
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:10,960
and and these cases are of more uh i

3003
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:13,440
think have more importance and are or

3004
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:14,960
more interest to

3005
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:16,159
um whoever

3006
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:19,199
whomever is monitoring this uh from a

3007
01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:22,400
from a invisible college let's say or

3008
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:24,880
even a governmental or a military level

3009
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:26,960
um i i've always had that sense that

3010
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:28,800
there are cases that

3011
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:29,920
um

3012
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,599
seem to be more important in the eyes of

3013
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:33,840
the powers to be than other cases so

3014
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:35,679
um in the case of biglow i think yeah i

3015
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:38,080
think uh you know he may be uh

3016
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:41,040
you know inadvertently a public face of

3017
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:43,840
this uh type of effort and uh

3018
01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:44,560
and

3019
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:46,320
much to his credit uh he's putting his

3020
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:48,080
money where his mouth is but

3021
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:48,800
it

3022
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,760
would be nice if uh if we all had a need

3023
01:55:55,270 --> 01:55:52,960
to know

3024
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:55,280
um it seems that uh you know with the

3025
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:57,920
concentration of wealth and influence

3026
01:56:01,830 --> 01:55:59,760
in the western world

3027
01:56:02,629 --> 01:56:01,840
in the hands of fewer and fewer people

3028
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:02,639
uh

3029
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:04,960
the great unwashed masses

3030
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:06,960
seem to have

3031
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:09,520
less and less of a need to know and uh i

3032
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:11,440
think when it comes to the paranormal

3033
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:13,440
when it comes to ufology this is not a

3034
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:15,280
good thing this is um this is the

3035
01:56:18,790 --> 01:56:17,760
antithesis of of what needs to be done

3036
01:56:21,270 --> 01:56:18,800
and uh

3037
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:21,280
and i'm i'm not uh i'm not for that uh i

3038
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:22,719
think uh i think there should be

3039
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:24,159
transparency

3040
01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:25,840
yeah it seems like there's the it's

3041
01:56:28,870 --> 01:56:27,360
become commercial ventures now like that

3042
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:28,880
when you talk about the unwashed masses

3043
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:30,880
and what do they want what they want out

3044
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,280
of it are great abduction stories they

3045
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:35,360
want to become ambassadors for stephen

3046
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:37,920
greer there's a lot of that kind of um

3047
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:38,880
you know

3048
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:40,960
really low level

3049
01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:42,880
lowest common denominator entertainment

3050
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:45,119
features that goes along with it and i

3051
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think that's a paradigm that's in

3052
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existence uh right now to the state

3053
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that's not driving anything forward but

3054
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when you look back at the history of uh

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you know collected data collection or or

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even as you identified you know that

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movement to try to publish data and put

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it out there i guess the larger uh

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pieces well who's gonna do anything with

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that content i mean who's making a wage

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or a salary or making a career out of it

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that would want to stick with it and see

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it advance and see it move forward and

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when you do think of you know key

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scientists perhaps that did put some

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time and effort into it they they were

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squashed and and eradicated or moved to

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other places where they could make money

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burnt state with gene and chris with our

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3198
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and as you see the discussion is very

3199
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much focusing

3200
02:03:00,229 --> 02:02:57,520
on the real lack

3201
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of ufo research being done just

3202
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:02,480
collecting a lot of data where do we

3203
02:03:08,149 --> 02:03:05,040
take it is it all being mined by people

3204
02:03:10,310 --> 02:03:08,159
like bob bigelow for whatever purpose he

3205
02:03:11,990 --> 02:03:10,320
has chris we have some questions from

3206
02:03:15,189 --> 02:03:12,000
our listeners you want to

3207
02:03:16,790 --> 02:03:15,199
get to a couple of them well this might

3208
02:03:18,709 --> 02:03:16,800
sound a little self-serving but we have

3209
02:03:20,709 --> 02:03:18,719
a question from our own burn state that

3210
02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:20,719
i really want to get to

3211
02:03:24,550 --> 02:03:23,520
um i guess when you posted your question

3212
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:24,560
you didn't realize you were actually

3213
02:03:28,629 --> 02:03:26,159
going to be on the show answering your

3214
02:03:30,070 --> 02:03:28,639
question but no i didn't now you can

3215
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:30,080
talk to yourself

3216
02:03:33,270 --> 02:03:32,320
great

3217
02:03:36,229 --> 02:03:33,280
well

3218
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:36,239
you you stated here and and i just i

3219
02:03:40,070 --> 02:03:38,560
love this you said i'd like to hear some

3220
02:03:43,189 --> 02:03:40,080
talk about the eth or the

3221
02:03:44,629 --> 02:03:43,199
extraterrestrial hypothesis as folklore

3222
02:03:46,629 --> 02:03:44,639
do we really have any evidence

3223
02:03:49,189 --> 02:03:46,639
whatsoever that the anomalous objects we

3224
02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:49,199
see in the sky have anything at all to

3225
02:03:51,350 --> 02:03:49,920
do

3226
02:03:55,030 --> 02:03:51,360
with structured craft controlled by

3227
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:55,040
sentient alien species from our planet

3228
02:04:00,470 --> 02:03:58,719
what do you trace back the eth2

3229
02:04:02,950 --> 02:04:00,480
is the whole concept just a

3230
02:04:04,229 --> 02:04:02,960
confabulation of pop culture well why

3231
02:04:08,070 --> 02:04:04,239
don't you

3232
02:04:09,990 --> 02:04:08,080
start us off with uh

3233
02:04:12,070 --> 02:04:10,000
with your thoughts on that particular

3234
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:12,080
subject and uh and i'm sure gene and i

3235
02:04:15,589 --> 02:04:14,639
will will chime in as we have been known

3236
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:15,599
to do

3237
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:18,159
sometimes yeah well this is uh i i

3238
02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:20,000
obviously am a bit of a fellaini

3239
02:04:24,149 --> 02:04:22,000
disciple uh there and have been accused

3240
02:04:26,629 --> 02:04:24,159
of worse in the forums but when you you

3241
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:26,639
look back into the history of paranormal

3242
02:04:32,070 --> 02:04:28,960
activity in our our contact with with

3243
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:32,080
strange strange things and and we and

3244
02:04:36,070 --> 02:04:33,760
and this really is the passport to

3245
02:04:37,350 --> 02:04:36,080
magonia piece that you know once upon a

3246
02:04:39,109 --> 02:04:37,360
time there was elves and there were

3247
02:04:41,430 --> 02:04:39,119
fairies and they abducted our children

3248
02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:41,440
and took them away from us and then fast

3249
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:43,520
forward into the modern era

3250
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:45,360
and there's airships and who's in those

3251
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:48,320
airships well they're angry uh people

3252
02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:50,320
they're well-dressed people they look

3253
02:04:54,950 --> 02:04:52,400
like they could be from japan or ireland

3254
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:54,960
or scandinavia and they look human is

3255
02:04:59,109 --> 02:04:56,800
what they look like but they're flying

3256
02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:59,119
in some pretty interesting machines and

3257
02:05:02,550 --> 02:05:00,800
interacting with people that really that

3258
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:02,560
shouldn't be happening at that time and

3259
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:04,480
then when you fast forward

3260
02:05:10,550 --> 02:05:08,639
then into the uh modern era of ufology

3261
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:10,560
suddenly now we have contact with all

3262
02:05:14,629 --> 02:05:13,280
manner of strange uh creatures that are

3263
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:14,639
there and and they're

3264
02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:15,840
you know the humanoid listing that

3265
02:05:19,510 --> 02:05:17,520
albert rosales has collected it's

3266
02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:19,520
absolutely mind-blowing that's there but

3267
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:21,840
it seems to me there's a very set

3268
02:05:26,229 --> 02:05:23,920
pattern that's been occurring over time

3269
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:26,239
and that we've just created new stories

3270
02:05:31,189 --> 02:05:28,239
depending on what's the nature of the

3271
02:05:32,870 --> 02:05:31,199
technology of the time and so in the

3272
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:32,880
earlier days there wasn't a lot of

3273
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:34,400
technology but the elves had fairy

3274
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:35,760
drinks and that could alter you and take

3275
02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:37,679
you somewhere else and the airships are

3276
02:05:41,589 --> 02:05:39,679
visible and things that we can look at

3277
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:41,599
if you take a look at the ufo this is

3278
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:43,760
about future technology this is about

3279
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,840
our modern era of flight that is

3280
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:47,599
extremely advanced

3281
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:48,960
something that when we started to

3282
02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:51,520
dominate the skies you know world war ii

3283
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:54,480
era and on we start to see

3284
02:05:59,669 --> 02:05:57,840
this manifestation of another you know

3285
02:06:02,229 --> 02:05:59,679
type of technology that looks kind of

3286
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:02,239
like ours but seems to be extremely more

3287
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:04,239
advanced than ours and so to me there's

3288
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:06,400
kind of a chain that's taking place

3289
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:09,119
there that i see that that eth piece

3290
02:06:13,030 --> 02:06:10,880
then becoming very popularized in

3291
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:13,040
literature it's a narrative that happens

3292
02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:14,880
in early sci-fi literature and then it

3293
02:06:20,790 --> 02:06:18,639
shows up in early television uh stories

3294
02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:20,800
and and it proceeds from there and now

3295
02:06:25,589 --> 02:06:22,320
it's almost very hard to kind of

3296
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:25,599
separate the story from the fact and i

3297
02:06:30,390 --> 02:06:28,000
think we have to account for for that

3298
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:30,400
some of the strangeness of the cases and

3299
02:06:34,629 --> 02:06:32,880
the repetitions of soil samples the fact

3300
02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:34,639
that we must be the hottest tourist spot

3301
02:06:38,629 --> 02:06:36,480
in the galaxy for the number of types of

3302
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:38,639
vehicles and types of creatures that are

3303
02:06:42,390 --> 02:06:40,159
visiting us you know none of these

3304
02:06:44,310 --> 02:06:42,400
things really make a lot of sense in

3305
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:44,320
terms of that concept of the eth and i

3306
02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:46,639
wonder sometimes is the eth just a

3307
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:48,960
really good story did you think of the

3308
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:52,480
possibility robert that maybe we're

3309
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:55,760
being led in a specific direction

3310
02:06:59,270 --> 02:06:56,639
so

3311
02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:59,280
the presence of flying saucers ufos

3312
02:07:04,390 --> 02:07:01,440
showing potential advanced

3313
02:07:07,750 --> 02:07:04,400
technologies for air travel space travel

3314
02:07:09,350 --> 02:07:07,760
that's teaching us about the possibility

3315
02:07:10,149 --> 02:07:09,360
in various ways

3316
02:07:12,149 --> 02:07:10,159
of

3317
02:07:14,550 --> 02:07:12,159
developing technology like that we're

3318
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,560
seeing our future we're being brought

3319
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:16,400
maybe kicking and screaming

3320
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:18,719
into a new age well you can you can

3321
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:21,360
actually take that even a step further

3322
02:07:25,510 --> 02:07:24,079
you could um argue that possibly what

3323
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:25,520
we're seeing is

3324
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:28,079
some sort of evolutionary imperative as

3325
02:07:32,629 --> 02:07:30,159
my friend david perkins would like to uh

3326
02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:32,639
to to call it uh something that is

3327
02:07:36,310 --> 02:07:35,360
designed to draw a soft planet to get us

3328
02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:36,320
out there

3329
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:39,040
like a breath of wind that uh hits a

3330
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dandelion and spreads uh

3331
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:42,719
the seeds uh

3332
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:44,639
to the wind uh we need to get off this

3333
02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:46,320
planet at some point

3334
02:07:49,910 --> 02:07:47,679
we're gonna get hit by an asteroid

3335
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:49,920
there'll be some sort of uh

3336
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:52,400
you know catastrophic you know earth

3337
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:54,239
ending event uh the sun's gonna go

3338
02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:55,599
supernova

3339
02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:57,840
at some point uh and burn

3340
02:08:02,069 --> 02:08:00,000
the inner planets through crisp as the

3341
02:08:04,629 --> 02:08:02,079
sun goes uh gets large and larger and

3342
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starts to die and becomes a red giant um

3343
02:08:09,669 --> 02:08:07,280
the earth is is has a finite

3344
02:08:11,270 --> 02:08:09,679
lifespan in an order for this closed

3345
02:08:13,990 --> 02:08:11,280
system which i believe is a super

3346
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:14,000
organism that's very much alive i i have

3347
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:16,239
always felt that our planet is a

3348
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,719
sentient uh super organism and and

3349
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:20,719
perhaps the planet itself is is helping

3350
02:08:23,910 --> 02:08:21,599
us

3351
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:23,920
you know kick ourselves out of the nest

3352
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:25,679
so to speak and uh we're gonna have to

3353
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learn to fly we're gonna have to see the

3354
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:28,239
universe we're gonna have to get out

3355
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:30,239
there spread the gene pool out there

3356
02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:32,560
into the cosmos and what better way than

3357
02:08:36,629 --> 02:08:34,239
to trick ourselves

3358
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to get off planet by supplying us with

3359
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the types of

3360
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folklore and stories and and

3361
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and uh motivation um that we find uh

3362
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within the

3363
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i guess just the effect of the uh

3364
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eulogical mystery on our thinking on our

3365
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technological development on our on our

3366
02:08:55,669 --> 02:08:54,079
ability to get out there and see see the

3367
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universe we're not doing a very good job

3368
02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:57,599
of that right now

3369
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we're allowing the uh private sector to

3370
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uh take

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take control we're allowing the uh the

3372
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free market system to dictate how

3373
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that particular effort is going to

3374
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proceed um hopefully it's going to be

3375
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proceeding in a timely manner but we do

3376
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:13,760
have to get out there and see the

3377
02:09:17,589 --> 02:09:15,840
universe and we may be supplying

3378
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ourselves with the kind of motivations

3379
02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:19,199
that it would take to

3380
02:09:23,830 --> 02:09:21,599
get us out there what do you think guys

3381
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:23,840
well let me suggest something here maybe

3382
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:24,719
earth

3383
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,079
telling us we've got to get prepared

3384
02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:32,480
to leave this planet we need to be space

3385
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born and very likely there is life out

3386
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:37,280
there and we need to become

3387
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:39,679
one with them we need to

3388
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,639
meet these other people and the fact of

3389
02:09:46,149 --> 02:09:44,400
the matter is or things whatever they

3390
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:46,159
are and the fact that the matter is here

3391
02:09:49,830 --> 02:09:48,320
maybe et doesn't really care about

3392
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:49,840
meeting up with us because we're not

3393
02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:50,880
ready

3394
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:53,280
what we see now is not really et it's a

3395
02:09:57,510 --> 02:09:55,599
message maybe it's a message from e.t

3396
02:09:59,589 --> 02:09:57,520
it's a message from mother earth

3397
02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:59,599
it's telling us we have to

3398
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leave this planet

3399
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and our entire

3400
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existence as a race depends

3401
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on making that decision

3402
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it's an evolutionary imperative exactly

3403
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it's part of our evolution

3404
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we'll talk about evolution and more

3405
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but

3406
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:18,560
no i'm not going to get into that too

3407
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political burnt state gene and chris

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hi this is nick pope you're listening to

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burnt states with us for the remainder

3525
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of the show with jean and chris talking

3526
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shop

3527
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and chris and i were talking about part

3528
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of our evolution being given the message

3529
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to get ready to leave this planet

3530
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:04,320
to save ourselves part of our survival

3531
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:07,360
can we go that far chris burns state

3532
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what i was wondering about is you know

3533
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where do our ideas come from you know

3534
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when you talk about planetary psychology

3535
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and you know the young address this idea

3536
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of a collective unconsciousness that

3537
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,280
that perhaps there are these ideas

3538
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:21,119
floating out in the ether that we're

3539
02:15:25,910 --> 02:15:22,880
sharing in and and if you think about

3540
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the advents advance of technology in our

3541
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:27,920
society and culture and how that's

3542
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:29,440
affected us you know dramatically

3543
02:15:33,589 --> 02:15:30,639
affected us you know the rise of the

3544
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:33,599
machine in the industrial era radically

3545
02:15:37,270 --> 02:15:35,440
altered the way that people lived inside

3546
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:37,280
of cities it affected the types of

3547
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:38,800
things that they dreamed about the types

3548
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:40,400
of things they thought about how they

3549
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built and created societies you look at

3550
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:44,480
the modern digital revolution which is

3551
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:46,400
you know phenomenally different at an

3552
02:15:49,750 --> 02:15:48,320
even higher acceleration you have to

3553
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:49,760
think there's going to be a lot of

3554
02:15:55,910 --> 02:15:52,880
latent fears concerns anxieties even

3555
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:55,920
about entering into an era where we're

3556
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,400
getting more electronic contact than the

3557
02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:00,560
natural contact and i wonder do we even

3558
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:02,800
have a connection to the earth and is it

3559
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:05,040
more about us kind of looking at the

3560
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ideas that are being created in our

3561
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society and out of that idea pool you

3562
02:16:12,390 --> 02:16:10,560
know that's kind of sitting inside of

3563
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the back of our own brains that that out

3564
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:15,040
of this comes our ideas of the future

3565
02:16:19,430 --> 02:16:17,440
our ideas of visitation or ideas of

3566
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departing the planet and and going to

3567
02:16:23,830 --> 02:16:21,360
other places i remember reading a really

3568
02:16:26,390 --> 02:16:23,840
good essay about someone talking about

3569
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,400
how you know ufo sightings are about

3570
02:16:30,470 --> 02:16:28,560
latent human anxiety about entering into

3571
02:16:32,150 --> 02:16:30,480
the technological era and while i don't

3572
02:16:34,870 --> 02:16:32,160
subscribe to the you know the kind of

3573
02:16:37,509 --> 02:16:34,880
psychosocial or or that kind of cultural

3574
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:37,519
context is being the only explanation

3575
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:40,719
for why we see the things that we do

3576
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:42,960
i do think there's some relevance in

3577
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:44,800
there and that we we do need to start to

3578
02:16:48,549 --> 02:16:47,040
investigate you know our sightings on in

3579
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:48,559
a more specific manner and give

3580
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:50,800
consideration a cultural context because

3581
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the eth has got a cultural context piece

3582
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:55,280
that has a history and valley's map that

3583
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out so we've got to address that while

3584
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at the same time still bringing good

3585
02:17:02,309 --> 02:17:00,240
science to bear to understand how does

3586
02:17:04,629 --> 02:17:02,319
human perception work you know how do we

3587
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:04,639
experience reality and what is it that's

3588
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:05,920
actually out there that we're seeing in

3589
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:08,319
the first place good point let's move on

3590
02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:10,800
with the questions okay well and i'm

3591
02:17:14,830 --> 02:17:12,479
just going to go down the list here that

3592
02:17:17,429 --> 02:17:14,840
robert has supplied us with uh at

3593
02:17:19,030 --> 02:17:17,439
forum.paracast.com where you can ask

3594
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:19,040
questions of our guests in this case

3595
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,439
it's a a shop talk episode so we're

3596
02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:24,000
answering our own questions

3597
02:17:27,110 --> 02:17:25,760
we're talking to ourselves ladies and

3598
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:27,120
gentlemen

3599
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:28,639
here's another one from robert what do

3600
02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,960
you subscribe to with regards to the ufo

3601
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:32,240
uap

3602
02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:34,240
conundrum with so many objects to

3603
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:36,559
discount and consider plasma ball

3604
02:17:41,030 --> 02:17:39,040
lightning space re-entry

3605
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:41,040
sky critters let's say

3606
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:42,880
trevor james constable's idea of sky

3607
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:45,200
critters uh ultra terrestrials uh beans

3608
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:47,359
that are here but hidden from us

3609
02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:49,359
sky mandalas that's a good one that kind

3610
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:51,519
of harkens back to jung what would each

3611
02:17:56,389 --> 02:17:54,000
of you put your money on as far as what

3612
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,399
is the majority of what is being seen um

3613
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:58,000
gene what do you think is all this just

3614
02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:00,639
misidentified natural phenomenon uh

3615
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:02,080
wishful thinking

3616
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:04,800
ultraterrestrials guy critters uh

3617
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:07,760
the collective unconscious or actual

3618
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:09,519
aliens from outer space i mean where do

3619
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:12,880
you come down can it be all of the above

3620
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:15,280
yeah yeah absolutely that would be my

3621
02:18:20,870 --> 02:18:18,240
answer i think it's a lot of answers

3622
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:20,880
it might be that e.t is here and they're

3623
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:23,280
part of the situation but may also be

3624
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:24,960
that we have all these other forces at

3625
02:18:29,669 --> 02:18:26,800
work and that's what makes it so

3626
02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:29,679
difficult to get to a real answer no

3627
02:18:33,589 --> 02:18:31,280
since you asked the question robert

3628
02:18:35,429 --> 02:18:33,599
what's your answer you know i think

3629
02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:35,439
that's the the deal is that it's the

3630
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:37,200
more we study and the more we know and

3631
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:39,120
that's been the history of humanity is

3632
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:41,359
the more we realize how little we know

3633
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:44,240
and just how complex reality is so i i

3634
02:18:48,309 --> 02:18:46,240
agree with both of you i think it's many

3635
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:48,319
things and certainly there's that

3636
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:51,200
possibility of of aliens visiting that's

3637
02:18:54,950 --> 02:18:53,359
that's out there and i would never i one

3638
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,960
of the things i've noticed on on the

3639
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:56,880
forum space is a lot of people you know

3640
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,439
as soon as you broach oh the eth is

3641
02:19:04,070 --> 02:19:01,599
folklore suddenly people come out

3642
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:04,080
swinging going no that's a sacred cow

3643
02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:05,599
you can't say that everything's just in

3644
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:07,200
our heads and and i've never said

3645
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:09,200
everything's just in our heads but i do

3646
02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:10,399
think we have to understand how our

3647
02:19:14,950 --> 02:19:12,399
heads work and how we how we see things

3648
02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:14,960
because that's intrinsically tied with

3649
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:16,639
the experiences that our people are

3650
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:19,040
having i mean reality is a virtual event

3651
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:21,040
inside of our heads given to us through

3652
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:23,359
our senses so we need to

3653
02:19:27,349 --> 02:19:25,200
be appreciative of that fact and

3654
02:19:29,429 --> 02:19:27,359
recognize we're probably seeing a lot of

3655
02:19:31,509 --> 02:19:29,439
different things take place some we

3656
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:31,519
might define ultimately as being natural

3657
02:19:35,830 --> 02:19:34,080
mundane mysterious i'm starting to give

3658
02:19:37,669 --> 02:19:35,840
more and more credence to sky critters

3659
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,679
to be honest that there's some type of

3660
02:19:41,429 --> 02:19:39,599
natural phenomenon that might be part of

3661
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:41,439
our atmosphere that might be affecting

3662
02:19:45,190 --> 02:19:43,280
us in ways that maybe it's not even

3663
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:45,200
sentient but it appears that way to us

3664
02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:46,880
and the way that greg bishop was talking

3665
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,479
about something that you know works like

3666
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:50,319
it's the weather or waves that we're

3667
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:52,000
just responding to it in strange ways

3668
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:53,840
but i don't think we can ever say it's

3669
02:19:57,830 --> 02:19:56,080
just one thing it's obviously many

3670
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:57,840
things that are at work here and

3671
02:20:02,389 --> 02:19:59,439
certainly not all of them are sentient

3672
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:02,399
uh behind it yeah i think it's the human

3673
02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:03,280
mind

3674
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,960
it just has a natural inclination to try

3675
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:06,960
to compartmentalize and and try to

3676
02:20:12,389 --> 02:20:09,280
categorize and classify things

3677
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,399
and and we may be attempting to

3678
02:20:17,190 --> 02:20:15,439
with the eth it's it's like a blanket uh

3679
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:17,200
explanation to explain a lot of things

3680
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:18,000
that we

3681
02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:20,479
we were experiencing that that

3682
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:22,640
are all being sort of lumped together

3683
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:25,200
into uh one big amorphous category

3684
02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:27,840
called the eth and when in fact it may

3685
02:20:34,389 --> 02:20:28,640
be

3686
02:20:36,790 --> 02:20:34,399
dimension some other star system but the

3687
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:36,800
vast majority i think of what what is

3688
02:20:42,150 --> 02:20:39,600
going on is is highly complex and

3689
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:42,160
and and you know could be a whole

3690
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:44,240
constellation of different of different

3691
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:46,800
things as as described so

3692
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:48,560
i think it's just part of human nature

3693
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:50,560
to attempt to

3694
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:51,680
to

3695
02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:54,080
explain things uh in the easiest most

3696
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:56,080
simplistic way and

3697
02:21:00,710 --> 02:20:59,280
and it's easier for for people to

3698
02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:00,720
you know get their

3699
02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:03,680
heads around something if it's um

3700
02:21:06,630 --> 02:21:04,640
if it's

3701
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:06,640
you know classified in a simplistic way

3702
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:09,600
i think uh it it just it's human nature

3703
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:10,319
to

3704
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,920
unfortunately uh that doesn't work for

3705
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:17,439
for many of these mysteries that we're

3706
02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:18,319
all

3707
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:20,160
so interested in and that we cover here

3708
02:21:25,110 --> 02:21:22,000
on the paracast and and

3709
02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:25,120
you know i really have a sense that um

3710
02:21:28,469 --> 02:21:26,560
there is something

3711
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:28,479
that still needs to be

3712
02:21:32,870 --> 02:21:30,800
discovered about the nature of human

3713
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:32,880
consciousness and how we

3714
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:34,080
we actually

3715
02:21:39,910 --> 02:21:37,040
are able to cognize um some of these

3716
02:21:43,190 --> 02:21:39,920
phenomenal events and why certain people

3717
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:43,200
um see them in one way and the

3718
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:44,560
shoulder to shoulder with somebody else

3719
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:46,720
that might have a different experience

3720
02:21:51,110 --> 02:21:48,640
there's a reason for that and i don't

3721
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:51,120
think enough work has been done

3722
02:21:54,469 --> 02:21:52,720
to

3723
02:21:56,630 --> 02:21:54,479
really explore the nature of

3724
02:21:59,190 --> 02:21:56,640
consciousness and the nature of our

3725
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:59,200
of our abilities uh to cognize uh

3726
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:00,640
experience and

3727
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:03,120
and um and then interpret that so you

3728
02:22:07,030 --> 02:22:04,960
know there's it's just such a wide open

3729
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:07,040
field um still

3730
02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:08,479
uh we're

3731
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:10,399
we're barely crawling uh we haven't

3732
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:11,840
gotten up and then taking our first

3733
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:13,280
shaky step

3734
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:16,160
uh god forbid uh you know we should ever

3735
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:17,520
develop to the point where we can run a

3736
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:19,200
marathon i i think we're still on our

3737
02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:21,520
hands and knees uh we're little you know

3738
02:22:26,469 --> 02:22:23,439
infants just uh scooting across the

3739
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:26,479
floor right now um

3740
02:22:29,270 --> 02:22:27,520
way to go

3741
02:22:31,429 --> 02:22:29,280
you know i have a crazy thought as we

3742
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:31,439
were talking here about reality and that

3743
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:34,160
is perhaps our reality expands as we

3744
02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:36,640
perceive more of it

3745
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:38,479
in other words it's not just

3746
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:39,760
a basic

3747
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:42,640
reality that we just have to learn but

3748
02:22:46,150 --> 02:22:44,000
as we

3749
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:46,160
find things more and more complicated

3750
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:49,600
the entire reality is adjusting itself

3751
02:22:54,550 --> 02:22:51,680
yeah a nice ball of dmt it'll really

3752
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:54,560
expand your uh your awareness uh

3753
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:55,439
or

3754
02:23:03,750 --> 02:23:01,840
that'll uh that'll jump start your uh

3755
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,760
your cognitive process well it's

3756
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:05,439
interesting you say that because that

3757
02:23:09,590 --> 02:23:07,280
you know the hallucinogenic experience

3758
02:23:12,550 --> 02:23:09,600
in the altered states seems to be very

3759
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:12,560
connected to the ufo witness when it's a

3760
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:14,720
proximity case when they're up close to

3761
02:23:19,670 --> 02:23:16,560
something it shares a lot of

3762
02:23:21,750 --> 02:23:19,680
similarities in terms of fear adrenaline

3763
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:21,760
um you know the types of sensations that

3764
02:23:25,990 --> 02:23:23,920
people are having racing thoughts uh

3765
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:26,000
perceptions of you know some type of

3766
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:27,920
sentience on the other side of it i

3767
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:29,680
think that's the interesting part about

3768
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:31,600
the phenomenon it is is teaching us

3769
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:33,680
something about ourselves and perhaps if

3770
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,520
we spend a little bit more time thinking

3771
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:38,080
about the witness and and who they are

3772
02:23:42,070 --> 02:23:39,680
and how they're being affected and are

3773
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:42,080
there even categories of witnesses maybe

3774
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:43,359
we can learn something about the

3775
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:45,359
phenomenon or or learn more about

3776
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:47,600
ourselves i found one interesting piece

3777
02:23:51,990 --> 02:23:49,600
from the project core people that were

3778
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:52,000
solicited all of their um you know

3779
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:53,600
questions about people who've had

3780
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:56,160
paranormal experiences as well as ufo uh

3781
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:58,479
experiences one of the most interesting

3782
02:24:02,230 --> 02:24:00,000
overlaps in there was people who

3783
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:02,240
associated feelings with numbers and

3784
02:24:06,630 --> 02:24:04,160
people who associated feelings with

3785
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:06,640
colors now that's the synesthesia

3786
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:08,960
experience that's the artist that's the

3787
02:24:13,510 --> 02:24:10,960
visionary now that's the person who's

3788
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:13,520
having an altered reality every day in

3789
02:24:16,630 --> 02:24:15,120
terms of how they look at things that

3790
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,640
are unfolding so i think that's one

3791
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:18,720
interesting point we got more to come

3792
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:20,960
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3804
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3808
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hi it's grant cameron from presidential

3905
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ufo.com you're listening to the paracast

3906
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:01,670
ah i kind of wish that burnt state came

3907
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:03,359
in a little bit earlier because he was

3908
02:29:07,910 --> 02:29:05,760
hitting here about this research from

3909
02:29:10,870 --> 02:29:07,920
project core and some of the results

3910
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:10,880
that he's talking about as we talk shop

3911
02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:13,280
with gene and chris robert yeah the only

3912
02:29:16,870 --> 02:29:14,800
other point i wanted to mention which

3913
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:16,880
goes back to the other piece that chris

3914
02:29:20,870 --> 02:29:18,640
had mentioned is you know human beings

3915
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:20,880
like a good story and they and they like

3916
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:22,800
an ending to that story we're not a big

3917
02:29:27,830 --> 02:29:25,359
fan of open-ended stories and we're also

3918
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:27,840
not a fan of of stories that are instead

3919
02:29:32,070 --> 02:29:30,319
of suggesting a or b but perhaps a third

3920
02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:32,080
bank of the river you know a another

3921
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:34,000
thing we hadn't considered at all that

3922
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,920
perhaps we couldn't even imagine

3923
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:37,520
to be out there but i do think that's

3924
02:29:42,550 --> 02:29:40,160
what the ufo phenomenon is doing is it's

3925
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:42,560
stretching our sensibilities of of how

3926
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:45,120
we perceive stories and narratives

3927
02:29:48,469 --> 02:29:46,560
because we that's how we live our lives

3928
02:29:50,150 --> 02:29:48,479
here on this planet is you know this is

3929
02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:50,160
through the stories that we've been told

3930
02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:51,520
by parents or this is how you be in

3931
02:29:55,750 --> 02:29:53,600
society this is the messages we get from

3932
02:29:57,910 --> 02:29:55,760
media consumerism etc you know that

3933
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:57,920
that's how we live and the ufo piece is

3934
02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:00,640
is offering something else all together

3935
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:02,560
and it's there is no simple answer i

3936
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:05,040
think the eth eths is too quick and too

3937
02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:07,040
easy a solution and then we need to

3938
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:08,800
recognize that it's trying to teach us

3939
02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:11,920
another way of experiencing reality that

3940
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:14,800
unfortunately is a problem because we

3941
02:30:20,309 --> 02:30:16,960
were first exposed to the possibility of

3942
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:20,319
extraterrestrial ufos back in the 1950s

3943
02:30:23,750 --> 02:30:22,160
and we haven't grown beyond that well

3944
02:30:25,590 --> 02:30:23,760
most people haven't who have been

3945
02:30:27,590 --> 02:30:25,600
exploring the subject and one of the

3946
02:30:29,830 --> 02:30:27,600
things where we think the power cast is

3947
02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:29,840
different from other radio shows is we

3948
02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:32,240
try to expand your mind not saying you

3949
02:30:36,790 --> 02:30:34,240
should take substances

3950
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:36,800
but consider a lot more possibilities

3951
02:30:41,349 --> 02:30:39,520
here that what we're exploring is a lot

3952
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:41,359
more complicated than you have a right

3953
02:30:44,150 --> 02:30:43,200
to think of course unfortunately the

3954
02:30:46,790 --> 02:30:44,160
media

3955
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:46,800
wants to think it's all about bt

3956
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:50,080
that when you say ufos it is tantamount

3957
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:51,520
to et

3958
02:30:56,389 --> 02:30:54,240
and when news reporters talk about

3959
02:30:58,830 --> 02:30:56,399
people interested in ufos they are

3960
02:31:00,870 --> 02:30:58,840
invariably et

3961
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:00,880
believers chris you want to get to

3962
02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:02,720
another question well here's one from

3963
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:04,640
polterworst it's more of an observation

3964
02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:06,880
really than a question but i think this

3965
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:09,840
whole um recent german wings crash

3966
02:31:13,190 --> 02:31:11,760
it kind of shook him to the core a

3967
02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:13,200
little bit um

3968
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:15,600
the guy who actually dove that plane

3969
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:17,600
into the alps was from his hometown uh

3970
02:31:20,389 --> 02:31:18,880
in germany

3971
02:31:22,790 --> 02:31:20,399
and uh

3972
02:31:23,910 --> 02:31:22,800
he says it's uh catapulted him back into

3973
02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:23,920
the near

3974
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:26,000
nihilistic state of mind

3975
02:31:28,790 --> 02:31:27,520
that he experienced after the 911

3976
02:31:31,030 --> 02:31:28,800
attacks

3977
02:31:32,309 --> 02:31:31,040
it seemed so senseless

3978
02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:32,319
but um

3979
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:34,640
and i can feel i can feel your

3980
02:31:40,550 --> 02:31:38,000
angst about that uh believe me 911 did a

3981
02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:40,560
big number on me for it still has done a

3982
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:44,080
number on me but he's he he goes on to

3983
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:46,479
mention linda godfrey's appearance here

3984
02:31:50,550 --> 02:31:48,479
and uh her description of a ball of

3985
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:50,560
light that she saw

3986
02:31:56,469 --> 02:31:52,800
while another witness saw a full-blown

3987
02:31:57,990 --> 02:31:56,479
aberration of some sort of ghostly form

3988
02:31:59,670 --> 02:31:58,000
and

3989
02:32:01,910 --> 02:31:59,680
he's been wondering about the

3990
02:32:03,910 --> 02:32:01,920
unwillingness of most ufo researchers to

3991
02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:03,920
to consider balls of light

3992
02:32:07,510 --> 02:32:05,600
as part of the phenomenon there is a

3993
02:32:08,550 --> 02:32:07,520
german researcher by the name of gerhard

3994
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:08,560
goschel

3995
02:32:12,309 --> 02:32:10,000
who's a very technical and down-to-earth

3996
02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:12,319
guy who's set up cameras at several ufo

3997
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:14,800
hot spots quote unquote and recorded

3998
02:32:17,429 --> 02:32:16,000
nothing at all in the way of nuts and

3999
02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:17,439
bolts but quite a few balls of light

4000
02:32:20,630 --> 02:32:19,439
zipping around or hovering

4001
02:32:23,349 --> 02:32:20,640
and he always checks for

4002
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:23,359
misinterpretation of headlights aircraft

4003
02:32:27,510 --> 02:32:25,760
and other mundane explanations of course

4004
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:27,520
instead of following his research other

4005
02:32:31,110 --> 02:32:29,520
ufologists are dismissing him wholesale

4006
02:32:33,670 --> 02:32:31,120
of course saying it's either natural

4007
02:32:36,309 --> 02:32:33,680
phenomena like plasma balls or just some

4008
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:36,319
you know in indiscernible light

4009
02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:38,160
well how about trying to get a really

4010
02:32:41,190 --> 02:32:39,359
good look at them instead of just

4011
02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:41,200
shrugging them off and i agree i think

4012
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:42,160
that

4013
02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:44,800
if you look at the totality of ufo

4014
02:32:48,870 --> 02:32:46,160
sightings

4015
02:32:51,270 --> 02:32:48,880
a vast majority of them are and do

4016
02:32:54,230 --> 02:32:51,280
appear to conform to that particular

4017
02:32:56,550 --> 02:32:54,240
category of siding which is

4018
02:32:58,469 --> 02:32:56,560
amorphous balls of light i have seen

4019
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:58,479
them very close to me

4020
02:33:01,190 --> 02:32:59,760
i've had them

4021
02:33:03,190 --> 02:33:01,200
pace my car

4022
02:33:06,230 --> 02:33:03,200
just a few feet away

4023
02:33:09,190 --> 02:33:06,240
i've seen them zip around um

4024
02:33:10,389 --> 02:33:09,200
the forest in in colorado light up trees

4025
02:33:12,309 --> 02:33:10,399
i've actually been

4026
02:33:13,670 --> 02:33:12,319
higher in elevation in sea balls of

4027
02:33:15,030 --> 02:33:13,680
light

4028
02:33:16,950 --> 02:33:15,040
lower than me

4029
02:33:19,830 --> 02:33:16,960
in elevation with a completely uniform

4030
02:33:21,510 --> 02:33:19,840
uh overcast sky

4031
02:33:22,389 --> 02:33:21,520
these are not

4032
02:33:23,830 --> 02:33:22,399
um

4033
02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:23,840
nuts i wouldn't describe them as nuts

4034
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,479
and bolts craft um they may be natural

4035
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:28,800
uh phenomenon they seem at times to be

4036
02:33:31,990 --> 02:33:30,080
intelligent

4037
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:32,000
and i think that this category of siding

4038
02:33:35,190 --> 02:33:33,280
is really

4039
02:33:36,550 --> 02:33:35,200
and and polterworst uh is i think

4040
02:33:38,070 --> 02:33:36,560
rightfully um

4041
02:33:40,630 --> 02:33:38,080
pointing out that this category of

4042
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:40,640
citing is not really

4043
02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:43,120
uh given the amount of attention that uh

4044
02:33:45,750 --> 02:33:44,960
it possibly should um what do you guys

4045
02:33:49,429 --> 02:33:45,760
think

4046
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:49,439
sightings that have taken place over

4047
02:33:54,150 --> 02:33:51,600
history seem to be varying sizes and

4048
02:33:56,550 --> 02:33:54,160
colors of balls of light certainly the

4049
02:33:58,630 --> 02:33:56,560
most fascinating ones and i really hope

4050
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:58,640
you could get this guy on the paracast

4051
02:34:03,270 --> 02:34:00,000
is the the character who's been

4052
02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:03,280
investigating the hesterlin phenomenon

4053
02:34:08,630 --> 02:34:06,080
because he actually presented at uh the

4054
02:34:10,870 --> 02:34:08,640
gay pan uh conference that took place in

4055
02:34:12,150 --> 02:34:10,880
paris and the title of his was 30 years

4056
02:34:14,309 --> 02:34:12,160
later you know so what has been

4057
02:34:15,190 --> 02:34:14,319
accumulated in hastala in studying

4058
02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:15,200
because there's been some pretty

4059
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:16,399
interesting balls of light that he

4060
02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:18,399
managed to uh get recordings of that we

4061
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:20,319
know are not just as you said you know

4062
02:34:23,429 --> 02:34:21,200
um

4063
02:34:26,309 --> 02:34:23,439
car headlights or inversion layers that

4064
02:34:28,469 --> 02:34:26,319
are reflecting uh things so certainly

4065
02:34:30,309 --> 02:34:28,479
that's i think something that deserves

4066
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:30,319
a lot more study but i guess the

4067
02:34:33,429 --> 02:34:31,840
question i've got to you chris like when

4068
02:34:35,670 --> 02:34:33,439
you say that these things are

4069
02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:35,680
um one you seem to have seen a lot of

4070
02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:37,120
them so i'm wondering how come i'm not

4071
02:34:40,790 --> 02:34:38,880
getting to to get this i must not be

4072
02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:40,800
getting out and about enough but i'm

4073
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:41,920
curious to know when you say that

4074
02:34:46,710 --> 02:34:44,160
there's a sentience attached to that

4075
02:34:48,630 --> 02:34:46,720
what do you mean by that

4076
02:34:50,630 --> 02:34:48,640
um to give you an example

4077
02:34:52,550 --> 02:34:50,640
of my brother and

4078
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:52,560
a a fellow

4079
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:54,720
a researcher from the 70s actually who

4080
02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:57,120
was involved early on in

4081
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:58,640
elation research

4082
02:35:02,550 --> 02:35:00,319
they were coming back

4083
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:02,560
uh to craft stone um and they were

4084
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:04,560
traveling um

4085
02:35:09,670 --> 02:35:06,880
right down the road that goes uh past

4086
02:35:10,630 --> 02:35:09,680
blanca towards the great sand dunes

4087
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:10,640
and then

4088
02:35:15,510 --> 02:35:13,120
heads out west towards um you know 17

4089
02:35:17,990 --> 02:35:15,520
which then takes us uh takes the

4090
02:35:20,389 --> 02:35:18,000
uh you know takes you up to credstone or

4091
02:35:22,790 --> 02:35:20,399
the turn to creston and they were

4092
02:35:24,630 --> 02:35:22,800
you know it was late at night um around

4093
02:35:26,710 --> 02:35:24,640
midnight if i remember correctly and

4094
02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:26,720
when they saw this

4095
02:35:31,510 --> 02:35:29,280
this ball of light a large uh very large

4096
02:35:35,270 --> 02:35:31,520
uh riveting ball of light that was

4097
02:35:36,870 --> 02:35:35,280
up in a veil uh of the blanca massif

4098
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:36,880
and um

4099
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:38,960
they found a road that

4100
02:35:42,630 --> 02:35:40,640
kind of went up

4101
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:42,640
towards the mountain they turned on it

4102
02:35:45,590 --> 02:35:44,560
and started to head up there and the

4103
02:35:48,469 --> 02:35:45,600
light

4104
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:48,479
appeared to mirror what they were doing

4105
02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:49,920
they stopped they turned their lights

4106
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:52,720
off the light dimmed

4107
02:35:56,950 --> 02:35:54,560
he put his parking lights on the lights

4108
02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:56,960
changed from white to yellow

4109
02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:58,880
um they blinked

4110
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:00,640
turned the headlights on the lights

4111
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:03,760
became bright and white they blinked

4112
02:36:07,590 --> 02:36:06,240
at it the lights blinked back

4113
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:07,600
they started to head up the road and the

4114
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:09,280
lights started to race down the mountain

4115
02:36:13,190 --> 02:36:11,040
it was like reflecting what they were

4116
02:36:15,429 --> 02:36:13,200
doing like a mirror image they stopped

4117
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:15,439
the light stopped uh they freaked out

4118
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:16,800
they turned around they started to go

4119
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:18,479
down the hill as soon as he hit his

4120
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:21,120
brakes the lights turned red

4121
02:36:25,270 --> 02:36:23,680
and stopped coming down the hill

4122
02:36:27,270 --> 02:36:25,280
they turned back around

4123
02:36:30,070 --> 02:36:27,280
and they played uh

4124
02:36:32,790 --> 02:36:30,080
a form of almost communication with this

4125
02:36:34,870 --> 02:36:32,800
particular huge light source and we're

4126
02:36:36,550 --> 02:36:34,880
talking about a very large ball of light

4127
02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:36,560
this is not one of your

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standard uh

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02:36:44,389 --> 02:36:42,560
issue uh blue softball sized lights or

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02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:44,399
uh let's say beach ball sized orange

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02:36:47,429 --> 02:36:45,520
light or

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02:36:49,990 --> 02:36:47,439
a smaller you know

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02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:50,000
baseball sized red light all of which

4134
02:36:54,070 --> 02:36:51,520
i've seen

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02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:54,080
on a number of occasions

4136
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:56,960
this was a huge uh ball of light but it

4137
02:37:01,110 --> 02:36:59,040
seemed to be

4138
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mimicking or

4139
02:37:05,990 --> 02:37:02,960
uh playing with them and with

4140
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intelligence and um

4141
02:37:09,590 --> 02:37:07,600
i don't know how else uh you could

4142
02:37:11,110 --> 02:37:09,600
explain something like that um

4143
02:37:12,550 --> 02:37:11,120
it seemed to be mirroring what they were

4144
02:37:14,230 --> 02:37:12,560
doing

4145
02:37:15,670 --> 02:37:14,240
it couldn't have been a coincidence my

4146
02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:15,680
my brother would not make something like

4147
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:17,200
this up uh

4148
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:19,280
bill mcintyre the guy he was with was a

4149
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:20,080
real

4150
02:37:23,030 --> 02:37:21,840
uh straight shooter uh investigative

4151
02:37:23,990 --> 02:37:23,040
journalist

4152
02:37:26,550 --> 02:37:24,000
broke

4153
02:37:28,150 --> 02:37:26,560
several very important uh stories in his

4154
02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:28,160
journalistic career

4155
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,399
they had nothing to gain this is before

4156
02:37:35,910 --> 02:37:32,880
i was involved in uh in writing

4157
02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:35,920
investigating this was back in in 1990

4158
02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:37,840
two years before i got involved in uh in

4159
02:37:41,750 --> 02:37:40,479
the ufological field so this was uh

4160
02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:41,760
oh by the way you wouldn't believe what

4161
02:37:45,670 --> 02:37:44,080
happened to us last night type of uh of

4162
02:37:47,990 --> 02:37:45,680
an account

4163
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:48,000
so i wish we had more time but uh that's

4164
02:37:52,950 --> 02:37:50,960
uh my idea of intelligence

4165
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:52,960
we do have more time it's called after

4166
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:54,720
the paracast and what we're going to do

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02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:55,520
here

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02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:57,280
is we're going to

4169
02:38:02,230 --> 02:37:59,520
adjourn this discussion on this week's

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02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:03,280
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